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It’s time once again gentle readers for your electric vehicle update. Recent news reveals reality continuing to catch up to EV/green pipe dreams. Reporting the news the American media avoids is The Daily Mail:
Automakers Honda and General Motors have ditched a $5 billion plan to create more affordable electric vehicles amidst an industry-wide slowdown in EV development.
The manufacturers agreed in April 2022 that they would combine powers to slash the battery costs on eco cars and develop vehicles below GM’s $30,000 Chevrolet Equinox. The partnership was intended to compete with Elon Musk‘s Tesla which has aggressively cut prices this year.
But today Honda CEO Toshiro Mibe confirmed the project had been cancelled, citing cost and logistical challenges.
Translation: There is no such thing as a “more affordable electric vehicle.” The current average EV MSRP is $67,000.
The relationship between car manufacturers and their dealers is a delicate balancing act. Everyone wants everyone else to be happy and profitable, so no one really wants to rock the boat. As I’ve previously noted, my local Wyoming Ford dealer doesn’t stock EVs. There is just no consumer interest, which isn’t surprising in a part of the country that has serious winter. But now, dealers are not only rocking the EV boat, they’re sinking it:
A coalition of nearly 4,000 auto dealers on Tuesday sent a letter to President Joe Biden explaining why his plans to force Americans into electric vehicles are unworkable.
The bottom line: Despite subsidies to car manufacturers to make the EVs, and tax credits for drivers to buy the cars, only 7% of new vehicle sales are electric vehicles, compared with Biden’s goal of 60% in 2030 and 66% in 2032.
The auto dealers wrote that ‘the supply of unsold [battery electric vehicles] is surging, as they are not selling nearly as fast as they are arriving at our dealerships—even with deep price cuts, manufacturer incentives, and generous government incentives.’
Translation: We can’t give the damned things away. No matter which
incentive” tricks you try, EVs are just too expensive for most people, and they don’t want them because of all the other issues EVs have. Americans are a lot smarter than you.
Ford Chief Financial Officer John Lawler, who postponed $12 billion in EV investments, said, ‘Given the dynamic EV environment, we are being judicious about our production and adjusting future capacity to better match market demand.’ Similarly, GM described ‘evolving EV demand’ as a reason for slowing production of electric pickup trucks.
Translation: “Evolving EV demand” as in “it’s evolving there is no demand for EVs.” Ford alone has admitted losing more than $3 billion on EVs in 2023 alone. I suspect they’ve lost much more than that.
Ford and GM describe EV demand as ‘dynamic’ and ‘evolving,’ but in reality, it is static and devolving.
Auto dealers are getting stuck with the unwanted cars. Dealers have to pay in advance, and if the cars sit on the lots without being sold, their funds are tied up, and they don’t have room for better-selling vehicles.
The dealers were very polite:
The dealers conclude their letter: ‘Mr. President, it is time to tap the brakes on the unrealistic government electric vehicle mandate. Allow time for the battery technology to advance. Allow time to make [battery electric vehicles] more affordable. Allow time to develop domestic sources for the minerals to make batteries.’
The dealers know the Mummified Meat Puppet Administration will never allow the mining and drilling necessary to restore American energy independence, to say nothing of the mining necessary to provide the rare earths necessary for EV battery production. They also know the technology isn’t going to “advance” any time soon, and those two factors combined mean there are not going to be any such things as financially competitive EVs. They also know Biden’s handlers aren’t going to listen to them any more than they listen to Normal Americans.
Another way reality is asserting itself is in EV repair costs. Regular readers know they’ve always been obscenely high. The difference is with Biden’s approval numbers at historic lows, the d/S/C media is finally beginning to report the truth:
A Tesla owner said he was ‘flabbergasted’ when he and his partner were hit with a hefty bill to fix their electric vehicle.
Johnny Bacigalupo and Rob Hussey told the Scottish news outlet Edinburgh Live they were billed £17,374, or about $21,000, to fix their Tesla after its battery was damaged by rain last week.
Damaged by rain?! The sad truth is any significant exposure to water, and particularly salt water, destroys EV batteries, often when they burst into flames.
‘I honestly can’t believe that this has happened. When I first got the call, I thought we would get a bill for £500 or £1,000,’ Bacigalupo told Edinburgh Live. ‘When they said over 17 grand — it’s absolutely obscene. My heart missed a beat, honestly.’
Elon Musk said in 2019 that it could cost $5,000 to $7,000 to replace a Tesla battery, but J.D. Power reported the figures were different in 2023. Recurrent, which reports on EV battery health, said battery replacement could cost anywhere from $5,000 to $20,000.
Nonsense. EV battery replacements run about 1/3 the MSRP, which means around $22,000. They’re part of the vehicle structure. It’s not like swapping batteries in a flashlight.
A similar incident occurred last year when a Canadian Tesla owner was told it would cost $26,000 to get a replacement battery for his vehicle, Fox Business reported.
See what I mean? EVs also cost much more to insure, and lightly damaged EVs often have to be entirely written off. Repair costs aren’t the only issue. EVs really, really aren’t cheaper than internal combustion engine—ICE—vehicles:
(The Center Square) – The complete costs of ‘fueling’ an electric vehicle for 10 years are $17.33 per equivalent gallon of gasoline, a new analysis from the Texas Public Policy Foundation says.
The study authors say the $1.21 cost-per-gallon equivalent of charging a car cited by EV advocates excludes the real costs born by taxpayers for subsidies, utility ratepayers for energy investments, and non-electric vehicle owners for mandate-and-environmental-credit-driven higher vehicle costs, which they say total $48,698 per EV. Those costs must be included when comparing fueling costs of EVs and traditional gas-powered vehicles, TPPF maintains.
Golly. I wonder why those kinds of facts are hard to come by?
The study also assumes EVs will be driven for 10 years and 120,000 miles, which the authors claim is a generous estimate. According to J.D. Power, EVs lose 2.3% of their range each year due to battery degradation, in part driving EVs to lose value faster than internal combustion cars.
It’s “generous” indeed. Most people don’t keep vehicles nearly that long, and because EVs don’t have the range for long trips, they’ll certainly put on fewer miles. If they could pack on that number of miles, they’d be replacing batteries much more often. The more often they’re charged, the faster they lost capacity.
With Ford losing an estimated $70,000 per EV and subsidies reaching $50,000 per EV, Isaac says the real cost of a vehicle such as a Ford Lightning is over $150,000, and those costs are carried by everyone, including non-EV owners and even Americans without cars.
‘The real cost of a Ford Lightning is closer to $172,00 and no one would buy them at that. I know their sales have tanked. The [electric] Silverado sold 18 electric trucks last quarter,’ Isaac said. ‘Buying a car is more expensive today and people don’t understand why that is. I’m trying to help them understand if they buy a gas or diesel car they’re paying for an electric vehicle for a wealthy EV owner.’
Oh. That’s why the media hasn’t been reporting on these issues until they’ve begun to have no choice.
Regular readers also know electric bus maker Proterra, which received mega Biden bucks in subsidies, went bankrupt. That’s a time-tested d/S/C tactic: pour billions into green companies, they go bankrupt, all that taxpayer money disappears. Electric buses just aren’t ready for prime time, but even so, d/S/C-run parts of the country still want to use them:
The Boulder Valley School District says it wants to replace its diesel school buses with more environmentally friendly green buses.
However, the district is going to buy five new diesel school buses because the electric and propane-powered buses won’t hold up on the more demanding routes.
The district is set to approve the purchase of five new diesel passenger school buses for $714,876. The district is expected to approve the new school buses at its Oct. 24 meeting.
The district said the new diesel buses are needed because, ‘diesel school buses are essential for mountain routes due to their robust performance in challenging terrains. These routes often have steep inclines, variable weather conditions, and remote locations, making diesel buses a practical choice.’
There’s that nasty reality intruding on utopian green idealism again. Believe it or not, reality has even made its way to Connecticut(?!):
Democrat Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont is withdrawing his plan to mandate future electric vehicle (EV) purchases after the proposal received bipartisan pushback from lawmakers on a key legislative panel.
Lamont ultimately pulled the proposal just four months after unveiling it and characterizing it as ‘decisive action to meet our climate pollution reduction targets.’ In July, Lamont unveiled the proposal, tethering Connecticut’s emissions standards to those set in California, which mandates that every passenger vehicle sold is electric by 2035, the most aggressive target of its kind nationwide.
‘Common sense has prevailed,’ Connecticut Senate Republican Leader Kevin Kelly said in a statement. ‘The Governor’s decision to withdraw the regulations is a reasoned approach to address the growing concerns raised by working and middle-class families. Adopting California emission standards which ban the sale of gas-powered cars is a substantial policy shift which must be decided by the General Assembly.’
How tragic. Connecticut residents will have to struggle along with affordable, reliable vehicles. The horror.
Final Thoughts:
Just how big is the potential EV market? EV ownership means installing as powerful a charger as possible in one’s home, an investment that can easily cost more than $11,000 dollars, and that’s if the electric infrastructure in one’s neighborhood and home will support it without significant upgrades for which no power provider will pay. That’s absolutely necessary, as base level chargers–standard wall current–take days to charge an EV. But wait: it’s worse.
Circa 2023, 34% of Americans rent their homes. They’re not going to be installing EV charging hardware in a home they don’t own. But how many Americans live in apartments? In 2019, that number was about 36% of the population, and current, accurate figures are hard to find. Apartment dwellers tend to be younger and lower income, but even so, the average two bedroom apartment is now going for around $1,300 a month! Single bedroom apartments are not much less. Circa 2023, the average apartment dweller makes around $46,000 a year. Unless their apartments provide chargers, and a means to bill for the electricity, which is to say the least, uncommon…but let’s stop there.
Reality check: No one making $46K can afford an EV. And even if they could, unless their apartment came with a garage (damned few do), if they live in a state with actual winter, their EV is going to be non-functional much of the year. No manufacturer can afford to build vehicles 36%–actually, much more–of the public can’t buy, and another significant portion of the public won’t buy. It’s not going to matter how much government mandates them.
See what I mean about reality?
DOUGLAS AUGUSTIN said:
I followed this Tesla influencer. I forget his name and I haven’t seen any posts for a while. Fully EV enthusiast. Solar panels and Tesla batteries. He and his wife lived in southern Utah with both their parents in Las Vegas. No problem doing that trip with one recharging stop. Then one day, he said he got a new car. An ICE. Why? The trip to and from LV in an EV was no longer practical once they had to take their baby.
Mike a.k.a. Proof said:
Electric cars: Not ready for Prime Time!
Somebody Special said:
Tesla is supposed to have coming out with its first generation hydrogen fuel car in the not-to-distant future. I’m actually interested in seeing this. Hydrogen fuel offers far better alternatives than EVs.
Buck Turgidson said:
Dear Somebody Special:
Be extremely careful with hydrogen fuel. Not only is it difficult to capture (leaks), it is frightfully explosive. As me how I know !
the other phil said:
Yes, hydrogen is a great fuel, but there are two major problems with its use in vehicles:
1. In order to hold enough gaseous hydrogen on-board a vehicle in a reasonably sized tank for a realistic range of 250-300 miles, it must be pressurized to 10,000 psi. Yikes!! It simply doesn’t have the necessary energy density in its gaseous form.
2. There is ample hydrogen in the world, but unfortunately it is tightly bonded to oxygen (H2O), and separating them consumes more energy than the amount of energy contained in the resulting pure hydrogen. So it’s a net energy loss, without even getting into the economics.
DOUGLAS AUGUSTIN said:
Industrial production on hydrogen is done using steam and methane which produces hydrogen and CO2. There is a hydrogen pipeline that runs from New Orleans to past Houston to supply H2 to refineries. Air Products runs a number of plants to feed this pipe line.
Researchers are trying to find a process to make green hydrogen (no CO2).
the other phil said:
And the steam comes from the burning of fossil fuels, which releases CO2. It’s simple chemistry. The energy required to break the H2O bonds are greater than the amount of energy available in the resulting pure H2. It’s still a net loss of energy even when H2 is made for industrial uses. The widespread use of H2 for vehicles would increase CO2 emissions, not decrease them.
And driving around with a 10,000 psi tank of a highly flammable gas sounds like a really bad idea to me.
Mike McDaniel said:
Dear the other phil:
Exactly. That’s why hydrogen, like so many other “breakthrough” technologies that will change everything never make it to production.
Somebody Special said:
Sorry for the delayed reply. I am not an EV fan by any stretch of imagination. Hydrogen fuel technology is something I have loosely followed since the 90’s. The best explosion I ever created in chemistry class was a hydrogen jet. Hydrogen cells have been part of the space program since the 60’s. I agree completely that there are challenges, and this is no panacea, however, even back in the 90’s BMW developed tank technology that would provide exceptional protection from damage and rupture. As far as production, there are many ways being investigated that don’t involve massive chemical and electrical manipulation (https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-production-processes). Private development is happening on a larger scale than most realize. https://youtube.com/shorts/-_WwAJqZ6fM?si=eDKecGMRBKMHsW-t
I’m not suggesting it can replace fossil fuels. I do think it is one of the more promising supplemental energy sources we have.
Rum said:
I know several people who love their Teslas who happen also to be driving enthusiasts. They love the unmatched acceleration (quite real) and how quiet they are.
These people can afford any car they want, generally. In fact, I do not know anyone who bought a BEV for anything remotely resembling economic savings.
Also, for a long while, Tesla had brand potency way up into the stratosphere. Like Ferrari, only more so. That explains Teslas stock pricing more than anything, imho. That and the fact that their charging technology has become the industry standard.
I love Bucees because their owners are so obviously smart. Their latest generation travel stops have Tesla chargers as far as the eye can see. What kind of customer would be better than someone well off who NEEDS to spend hours trapped in giant retail store whenever they travel on an interstate?
Mike McDaniel said:
Dear Rum:
Great Buckee’s point. Mrs. Manor always loved stopping there when we lived in Texas.
As I’ve so often written, the folks buying virtually all the EVs are people in the top 7% in income.