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Here, gentle readers, is a dose of real, not D/S/C manufactured, reality. We’ll discuss D/S/C faux reality shortly. Two adults commit a crime—let’s say they rob a liquor store—and when they’re stopped in their getaway car, they have their two young children with them. What happens to the kids?
Simple. They have committed no crime, and even if they did, they cannot, by law, be held in an adult jail, so the kids and parents are going to be split up, only to be reunited when and if their self-initiated involvement with the criminal justice system ends. If the kids have committed no crime, they’ll be immediately released to relatives, or if there are none, to social services who will care for them until a better arrangement can be made. One thing is certain: children are going to be separated from their parents if their parents are going to jail. It’s not only the law, it’s bare basic sanity. That doesn’t always accompany law, but in this case, it does. It has nothing to do with Donald Trump, unlike everything else in the universe.
And if you were wondering–yet again/still–just how crazy America under the Harris/Biden/Whoever Administration—Joe Biden, Temporary President—has become, this crazy:
President Joe Biden’s administration is considering a plan that would give border crossers, who were subjected to former President Donald Trump’s ‘Zero Tolerance’ policy, about $450,000 each in a reparations-style payout.
Trump had instituted the Zero Tolerance policy at the United States-Mexico border in 2018 to reduce illegal immigration. The policy, as Breitbart News reported at the time, had been effective since at least before 2001.
Hmmm. 2009 to 2017 would be mostly The Age of Obama, Joe Biden, Vice President. I wonder why they didn’t right the terrible wrong of American immigration law lawfully enacted by Congress? They had seven years…
As a result of the policy, adult border crossers were often put into separate holding facilities from the children they arrived with at the southern border. Since then, the border crossers who were subjected to the policy have sued the federal government.
What’s not being said here is the reality of the law, at local, state and federal levels, that children may not be held in adult incarceration facilities.
The Biden administration, the Wall Street Journal reveals, is now weighing whether to provide those border crossers with $450,000 each as part of a payout in the lawsuits filed.
In some instances, a migrant family could secure about $1 million from such a payout, more than some of the American families received following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. The payout, overall, could cost American taxpayers more than $1 billion.
The Journal reports:
‘The Biden administration is in talks to offer immigrant families that were separated during the Trump administration around $450,000 a person in compensation, according to people familiar with the matter, as several agencies work to resolve lawsuits filed on behalf of parents and children who say the government subjected them to lasting psychological trauma. [Emphasis added]
The U.S. Departments of Justice, Homeland Security, and Health and Human Services are considering payments that could amount to close to $1 million a family, though the final numbers could shift, the people familiar with the matter said. Most of the families that crossed the border illegally from Mexico to seek asylum in the U.S. included one parent and one child, the people said. Many families would likely get smaller payouts, depending on their circumstances, the people said. [Emphasis added]…
In another instance, a Department of Homeland Security attorney involved in the settlement talks complained on a conference call that the payouts could amount to more than some families of 9/11 victims received, one person said. Other people said senior departmental officials were in alignment on the amount and disputed the 9/11 comparison, given that the U.S. government hadn’t been responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The 9/11 victim compensation fund averaged awards to the dead of around $2 million, tax-free, at the time an unprecedented payout, the administrator of the fund has said. [Emphasis added]’
What’s happening is merely a logical, but utterly insane, extension of the “sue and settle” tactics long practiced by D/S/C bureaucrats and D/S/C administrations. The government wants some policy or benefit, but it’s not politically possible to do it or it’s illegal, so they collude with some Socialist/Communist group to sue the government demanding what both want. The Government immediately “settles” the lawsuit, claiming it’s in the best interests of America. Always, not only do both groups get the policy they want, the groups–and their lawyers–get huge piles of taxpayer money. And yes, federal judges know exactly what’s going on; they’re in on it too. Even if the agreement is illegal, it will take many years–if ever–for it to be overturned. Government and it’s allies get what they want, and the allies get millions they’ll never have to repay.
In their lawsuits, border crossers allege that their separation from the children they arrived with at the U.S.-Mexico border spurred mental health issues and trauma that they have struggled to overcome.
Let’s see if we correctly understand this: the “border crossers”—AKA illegal aliens—knowingly and willfully broke American law, which required their children be held separately—to provide them the protection their parents willfully and knowingly denied them–until their cases were resolved. Any “mental health issues and trauma” they felt were caused not by the US Government, but by their illegal actions.
Lawyers for the border crossers want around $3.4 million per family unit.
Oh, is that all? I have mental health issues and trauma from all that’s been inflicted on America and me for the last 10 months. Where are my millions?
Such settlements have occurred in recent years. For example, in June 2019, a family of Honduran border crossers won $125,000 in damages after they filed a lawsuit claiming the federal government had mistreated them when holding them in detention facilities.
But they’re not going to get mere millions for their “mental health issues and trauma,” no:
In May, reports circulated that as part of such a settlement with border crossers subjected to the Zero Tolerance policy, the Biden administration would fly deported illegal aliens back to the U.S. and provide them with amnesty to remain in the country, as well as payments and social services.
Well of course they will. America dead last–if considered at all. If I illegally enter Mexico, or any other country, will I get millions when they lock me up? Of course not. Only in America do “leaders” think so little of their country and countrymen they would pay foreign criminals millions for breaking American law.
We might keep in mind a great many of the “unaccompanied minors” being drug across the border by adults were not and are not, in fact, their biological children. They’re useful meat props, nothing more. One might also consider parents allowing their children, or forcing them, to cross entire countries, alone, where they are beaten, raped, forced into sex slavery and the drug trade might also be breaking the laws not only of their country, but American law. How much is the “trauma” they suffered for abandoning their children worth to D/S/Cs?
This, gentle readers, is the kind of outrage, the kind of anti-America hatred, the kind of absolute insanity and utter disregard for the rule of law, that is pushing Americans closer and closer to the edge of the abyss from which there is no turning back. Biden and his lackeys were going to be the adults in the room. They were going to restore norms and regular order. They were going to be honest and transparent. They were going to protect the Constitution. They were going to bring America back and make it respected again.
Can they really be so stupid as to do this when the BMD— Biden Made Disaster–of runaway inflation is destroying American families and lives? Can they be so stupid as to do this when the BMD of vaccine mandates is throwing millions of Americans—essential public safety and health workers among them—out of work and into poverty just before Thanksgiving and Christmas, a Thanksgiving and Christmas that are going to be awfully spare for millions of families due to the BMD supply chain crisis?
Or is it they believe we’re stupid, too stupid to know what they’re doing? Do they really think Americans—Americans!—are going to put up with this? Or are they so drunk with temporary power they think themselves invincible? We know they hate Normal Americans, they make that plain every day, but can they really be that stupid? Are they really pushing to find and surpass the breaking point? Even Julius Caesar, Rome’s greatest military leader and emperor, is said to have had a minion follow him around, periodically whispering into his ear: “sic transit Gloria mundi”—“the glory of man is fleeting.” Some versions whispered: “remember: thou art mortal,” but the point is the same. Power is fleeting, and all men die.
Much more of this, and they’re going to find themselves dying that real reality.
UPDATE, 10-29-21 2015 MT: Gotta love the Babylon Bee:
As usual, context. (jeez.. Breitbart?)
All this arises from an ACLU class action lawsuit brought in the name of the families involved in the separations.
“The ACLU won a nationwide injunction in June 2018 blocking family separations. The lawsuit covers separations happening between 2017 to present.”
If you bother to read the link there’s a long list of reasons for the claims. In the meantime the government is still trying to return children. Money amounts are still being negotiated.
Seems to me the only one who violated Constitutional law was Trump in initiating this program and now our tax dollars are apparently a remedy.
Mike McDaniel said:
As always, I have included a link to the article, and rest assured, this story, essentially verbatim in terms of facts, is covered by many other news outlets. I also chose portions of the story that do provide the context of lawsuits. The facts remain: illegal aliens, people who broke our laws, want money because our law also require children may not be held in adult detention facilities. I also pointed out that the policy–and the law–far pre date Trump.
So your point is again?
“The Trump administration repeatedly emphasized that there was no “blanket policy” to separate families as a way to deter others, and that the family separation was a consequence of the “zero-tolerance” policy, combined with a federal court action limiting the detention of children, including in family detention. The government’s position seemed to be that the prosecutions required the parents to serve time in criminal custody, and thus due to rules on holding children in either criminal or immigration detention, the separations were the logical result.
However, as noted above, the “zero-tolerance” policy did not actually lead to prosecutions of 100 percent of adults apprehended at the border. The government specifically chose to prosecute parents traveling with children over adults traveling alone. This is in sharp contrast to the policy under previous administrations, under which parents traveling with children were rarely criminally prosecuted.”
More of that here….
This is from WaPo…..
“The two claims at the core of the exchange — that Obama built the cages and Trump did something unprecedented with them — were not wrong. But the wider context and history were missing.”
Very detailed further here on the cage building and how Trump’s zero tolerance went farther here…
Always a wider context.
Mike McDaniel said:
OK. You’ve confirmed children must be held separately from adults. Thanks. You keep suggesting I’m trying to deny readers “context.” As I’ve explained before, and here for the final time, I always provide links to every related article and other sources. Adding every potential bit of context would greatly exceed the word limits I try to maintain, and do nothing to assist understanding. Every article written by anyone has a theme, and one cannot be legitimately blamed for support it. If I did not link to the complete articles to which I refer, you might have a point. As I do, you don’t.
Maybe you’re right. I suppose context is not important. Easier to just grab at the emotionalism of an issue to justify the “hate” of the other is just as good too.
Doug, which part of the constitution prohibits these actions? Please be specific and include excerpts to back up your claim. If you need help, copies of the constitution are readily available on the internet.
If you are unable to do so, I’ll just have to assume that you’re either lying, misinformed, or brainwashed.
Apparently the class action by the ACLU and the government lawyers thinking the cheaper route is to settle.. suggests someone didn’t hold to someone else’s civil rights or follow the law completely. I posted the links. You read them if interested… which I am sure the only thing you are interested in is justifying whatever Trumpian bias you need to justify, context be damned… and not caring if you are being lied to, misinformed, or brainwashed.
Mike McDaniel said:
While you’re correct that people often settle lawsuits to avoid the trouble and expense of defending them, because even if they win, it would cost more. However, as I explained, this is a sue and settle matter. The government is settling because they want the same result, and need the lawsuits as political cover. I’ve no doubt they colluded with the ACLU beforehand, and together planned to file and settle the suits.
By the way, Donald Trump doesn’t live in my head rent free. If he never again serves as President, I’m content. Good luck trying to collect rent from him.
“I’ve no doubt they colluded with the ACLU beforehand, and together planned to file and settle the suits.”
Apparently because I submitted more than one link in a post Mike’s WP is holding it for moderation thinking it might be spam. Wait for Mike to release it.. if he does.
Mike McDaniel said:
I have a life apart from writing this scruffy little blog. Unless they’re breaching the well understood boundaries of decency and polite discourse, I do not delete reader’s comments. Your comment is posted.
I never once alluded that you had motives behind moderation. I fully understand that the moderation imposed was likely a result of a setting in your WP security that forces you to review a reply if there were more than one link included in the text, as suspected spam. I’ve noticed this on more than one occasion on your blog and accept the process. I’m not accusing you of a thing.
Mike McDaniel said:
You’re reading a bit much into my comment. I was only pointing out I don’t spend every minute of every day dealing with this blog.
I generally presume that most blog people have an outside life (most)… and I didn’t think I was “rushing you” into action. Seems we got into a bit of communication fog with my replies to Ken.
I read the link Doug…it’s full of vague claims and accusations and conveniently only seems concerned about kids separated from parents during Trump’s time in office. Obama, who built the cages, and Biden who put more people in cages than anyone else are completely ignored. In fact, Biden is the one who implemented the policies that led to more illegals crossing the border which led to more separated kids.
The ACLU has long since stopped caring about human rights and has become just another political organization. I trust their agenda about as much as I trust WashPo or CNN.
To address your first point.. you didn’t read my subsequent reply to Mike with “cage building” context, etc. because it’s in moderation… which is what I was referencing… which suggests your context as being inaccurate. But then again, if you rely on Breitbart, Oan, and FOX.. I can understand your picking up the misinformation.
Kinda frustrating, isn’t it? In the end it’s all a pissing match of what sources we wish to believe.. with our belief being nothing but an echo of our own personal bias.
“By the way, Donald Trump doesn’t live in my head rent free. If he never again serves as President, I’m content.”
Uh.. then this begets the next question, Mike, if you are content with Trump not serving as president.. and you obviously have no interest in Biden for the obvious…. then who would you want to see run in 2024? I might agree… you never know.
Les Moore said:
Mike, you fall for Doug’s bait every time:
-overwhelm with links to “authoritative” sources
-claim your sources are dubious or outright liars.
-equivocate when caught
-write it all off to personal bias
-get attention he would not otherwise get at his
Is there a blog contest somewhere that I need to acquire more attention? I mean.. Mike says he has a “scruffy little blog” so I suppose I can have a “lonely blog”. How we measuring attention… number of replies? Mike gets a couple at least with each post. I can’t recall your last reply to one of Mike’s posts. Is a pissing match really necessarily to bolster your ego?
You need a Conservative echo chamber to create and affirm your own biased politics free from fear of moral and ideological challenges.. that’s entirely up to Mike.
Mike McDaniel said:
Dear Les Moore:
Not every time, and I’m more than confident in the ability of readers–like you–to separate rhetorical tricks and logical fallacies from reality. I welcome all polite, rational commenters. It makes things more interesting, if occasionally annoying.
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