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Some pundits are calling Elon Musk the smartest man in the world. I’m always suspicious of people making such claims, as they never include me on that sort of list, so how smart can they be? Even so, Musk is accurate in this claim:
Tesla CEO Elon Musk says we’ll need more electricity to power cars like his. A lot more.
Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk said on Tuesday that electricity consumption will double if the world’s car fleets are electrified, increasing the need to expand nuclear, solar, geothermal and wind energy generating sources.
Increasing the availability of sustainable energy is a major challenge as cars move from combustion engines to battery-driven electric motors, a shift which will take two decades, Musk said in a talk hosted by Berlin-based publisher Axel Springer.
There’s no unicorn energy source or free lunch. Currently, electric cars are primarily powered by coal, natural gas, and nuclear. Those are the sources we use to generate electricity, after all, according to the Energy Information Agency. Renewables are growing but still account for less than 20% of U.S. electricity.
Only two decades? It must always be remembered solar and wind are intermittent, and do not produce a consistent level of power even when producing at their peak. Wind works only when the wind blows, and the wind seldom blows at a consistent velocity for any given period of time. In addition, if the wind is too strong, windmills must feather their blades lest they be destroyed. Solar, of course, works only when the sun is shining, and even then, the amount of energy it produces may be badly degraded by clouds, rain, snow and other weather. It’s also important to realize whatever electricity is produced by solar and wind are a “use it or lose it” proposition. There is no such thing as battery storage so huge and efficient it can store the massive amounts of electricity necessary for residential and commercial use. So “20%”? Maybe, sometimes, and in some places, but usually much, much less.
Even so, there is a great deal of battery production necessary if we are to transition from fossil fuels to “renewable” sources, and not just in electric vehicles:
Mining is a dirty business.
Weighing those trade-offs — between supporting mining in environmentally sensitive areas and sourcing metals needed to power renewables — is likely to become more common if countries continue generating more renewable energy. That’s according to a report out Wednesday from researchers at the Institute for Sustainable Futures at the University of Technology Sydney in Australia. The report, commissioned by the environmental organization Earthworks, finds that demand for metals such as copper, lithium and cobalt would skyrocket if countries around the world try to get their electric grids and transportation systems fully powered by renewable energy by 2050. Consequently, a rush to meet that demand could lead to more mining in countries with lax environmental and safety regulations and weak protections for workers.
‘If not managed responsibly, this has the potential for new adverse environmental and social impacts,’ the report says.
I’ve written about the environmental impact of the hundreds of thousands of windmill blades that must be disposed of. They can’t be recycled, and at present, only a very few Midwestern landfills accept them, where, under the soil, they persist for millenia.
Energy comes at some cost and likely always will. Stopping drilling wouldn’t just stop gas-powered cars. It would eventually stop the whole economy. Natural gas, our largest source of electricity, is a byproduct of drilling for crude oil. Stopping drilling for crude means little or no natural gas as well. That would reduce our electric generation by about a third by itself. Even if America stopped drilling because Obama said so, the rest of the world wouldn’t. Russia and the Middle East would go right on drilling, and we would become far more dependent on them for our energy, in turn endangering our national security and making the world less stable.
Let’s not even consider China’s massive military buildup and their goal of world domination. We’re not going to be running warships—apart from aircraft carriers and submarines—or aircraft and other military vehicles on anything but fossil fuels, and if we can’t produce those ourselves, China will be able to dramatically accelerate its timetable for world domination, a horror of which many of our politicians seem to approve.
What’s the point? We’ve spent more than a century building up our current electric generation and distribution system, and our fossil fuel production and distribution systems. There are gas stations on every corner, and refueling usual vehicles with affordable gasoline takes no more than 15 minutes, usually less. Drivers seldom, if ever, have to wait in line to fuel their vehicles.
Under Jimmy Carter, I did, and if D/S/Cs have their way, we may be soon longing for those heady days of drive 55, gas shortages, long lines at the pump, rampant inflation and sky high prices.
Energy needs for homes are also affordable everywhere but D/S/C ruled cities and states, where high prices and brown and blackouts are a tragic reality. The media loves to blame Republicans for everything with headlines like “women, children, minorities and the poor hardest hit,” but nothing damages the poor more than unnecessarily high energy costs.
Consider this brief article from England:
The climate cultists at the UK Guardian try to put a rosy face on this, but, ‘taint working
‘Why did it take nine hours to go 130 miles in our new electric Porsche?’
A Kent couple love their new car – but their experience suggests there are problems with the charging network
A couple from Kent have described how it took them more than nine hours to drive 130 miles home from Bournemouth as they struggled to find a working charger capable of producing enough power to their electric car.
Linda Barnes and her husband had to visit six charging stations as one after another they were either out of order, already had a queue or were the slow, older versions that would never be able to provide a fast enough charge in the time.
While the couple seem to have been ‘incredibly unlucky’, according to the president of the AA, Edmund King, their case highlights some of the problems that need ironing out before electric car owners can rely on the UK’s charging infrastructure.
The couple, who love their new fully electric Porsche Taycan 4S, which has a range of about 250 miles, contacted the Guardian to describe how difficult it is to recharge a car away from home. Their journey would have taken two and a half hours in a conventional car, they say.
This is a universal problem. Joe Biden wants to force America to drive nothing but electric vehicles, as I noted back in November in Your Biden EV Future. Even if sufficient electric generation capacity could be miraculously produced in the very brief time frame lack-of-visionaries like Biden and California’s dimwitted and plastic haired Gavin Newsom demand, it would still be unreliable and intermittent, but that’s not the biggest problem.
Our current gasoline power system works because it’s inexpensive and there are stations everywhere, but even the largest stations don’t have more than 10 or so pumps, and smaller, neighborhood stations have fewer. This is so because they don’t need more. Vehicles are fully fueled and on their way within minutes. It won’t be possible to merely convert gas stations to charging stations.
When it takes from 2-4 hours—under ideal conditions—to charge an EV to something resembling a full charge, where are drivers and passengers going to wait? This is particularly an issue in winter and summer weather. One can’t run the heater or AC while charging, lest an EV never recharge, so stations will have to be rebuilt into much different and larger facilities, not only to provide far more charging stations than pumps, but to provide a place for all those drivers and passengers to stay warm or cool. There will have to be many, many more of them too, unless the government’s intention is to make travel so insanely difficult and expensive no one will travel anymore. In cold weather, batteries don’t charge as fast, nor do they charge as fully, greatly lengthening recharge and lay over times.
Imagine the increase in electric demand when every American is recharging one or more EVs each and every night, which is precisely the future the lunatic D/S/Cs in charge of California envision. Let’s visit reality instead via Chuck DeVore at The Federalist:
California’s electricity problem is simple. Its energy policies demand ever-increasing amounts of wind and solar power, but electricity must be generated the moment it’s consumed. The wind doesn’t always blow—especially when it’s hot—and the sun doesn’t always shine. Therefore, California must import vast amounts of power from the 13 other states (along with Canada and Mexico) in the Western Interconnection whenever that’s required to keep the lights on and the air conditioners running.
As always, California legislators rely on unicorn farts and fairy dust:

Kamala Harris, responsible for much of California’s energy problem, wants to take her brilliance national…
In 2018, almost a third of the retail electricity California used was imported—with coal, gas, and nuclear power in the mix. California’s environmental virtues do have a limit. But coal-fired power plants in Arizona, Utah, and Wyoming may not be around much longer to sell power to California during a heat wave. There are two reasons for this.
First, Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a law in 2006 that banned renewing contracts to import coal-fired electricity. This law was later expanded to cover municipal utilities, such as the behemoth L.A. Department of Water and Power.
Second, California’s aggressive subsidies and mandates for solar and wind power have led to frequent surpluses of very cheap (but very unreliable) power flooding the Western grid. Under most states’ public utility rules, the lowest-cost electricity must be purchased first, often idling reliable—but more expensive to operate—coal and gas plants.
This has put significant financial pressure on reliable fossil fuel plants, leading many to close, often decades ahead of their planned decommissioning dates. As these reliable generators of power have shuttered, it has complicated grid operators’ ability to balance the grid.
Thus does California experience rolling brownouts and blackouts, not only because of lack of supply, but to prevent physical damage to the grid.
The environmental left holds up California as the avatar of America’s energy future. For decades, the Golden State’s elected officials and regulators have been boosting renewable energy. Renewable electricity targets have been accelerated, with the state’s goal of 33 percent of its power from renewable sources, mostly solar and wind, this year, moving to 60 percent of its electricity from renewables by 2030. By 2045, all of California’s electricity must come from carbon-free sources.
This effort doesn’t come on the cheap. For the privilege of having electricity when it’s available over the past few days, Californians pay 61 percent above the national average for electricity.
Doesn’t everyone want to pay that much—and more—more? I’m sure Joe Biden will tell us it’s our patriotic duty, if he can still read a teleprompter when he gets around to it.
To try to solve this problem of its own making, California is increasingly turning to batteries to store power. This is especially needed for wind power, which, in most places around the world, generally produces more wind at night when demand is lower. But despite spending billions on batteries, the state can still only store enough power to keep California energized for a few minutes.
Apparently CA pols think all they need do is get a much, much bigger 12 volt battery like the kind cars use. Surely manufacturers make cheap, ten story high batteries that cover an acre or two?
Battery proponents always hint at big improvements just around the corner. But unlike computing, which is governed by Moore’s Law, with the capability of computers doubling every two years, batteries are constrained by chemistry and physics. They have to do physical work, whereas computers only manipulate 1s and 0s.
And even computers use electrical energy.
As an example, San Francisco’s 890,000 people would need an $8 billion battery farm weighing about 380,000 tons to avoid frequent blackouts if it were to go 100 percent renewable by 2045, as per California law. The cost would be about $16,000 per household. It’s important to note that after being drained over 12 hours, on a windless, cold winter’s day, power would be then unavailable in subsequent days if the state relied on such batteries.
As I noted in my last article, EV proponents seem to have no idea from where electricity comes. From where is the electricity to charge the massive batteries–which don’t exist, but let’s roll with it–necessary to charge all those EV batteries going to come? That’s a lot of fairy dust and unicorn farts. And if it takes four hours to charge an EV at home with a $2000 fast charger, how long would it take to recharge that $8 billion—you don’t really think it’s going to cost only $8 Billion, do you, gentle readers?—battery farm that is supposed to charge millions of EVs? Batteries, particularly those under constant, high load, don’t last long, so $8+ billion per year or so for battery replacement with attendant costs per household? No, it’s not going to be a mere $16,000 household only once. Oh, and when those batteries are being serviced or replaced, they aren’t going to provide any fairy dust. On the other hand, hundreds of thousands of Californians are fleeing to the free states, so that might help…
Hmmm. Maybe getting all this wondrous electrical infrastructure isn’t as quick and easy as it sounds—unless the point is to control every aspect of people’s lives and keep them sweating during summer and freezing in winter in their homes, and of course, wearing masks for eternity.
So sure, EVs are our future, but only if we want to take great civilizational leaps backward.
No question at all that you are Conservative. No support of innovation across the board because it impedes something. No interest in innovating law enforcement, electric power, globalization, environment, yada, yada.. it’s just ALL wrong.. right? Personally you make some fair points regarding electric cars and wind generation… but that does not mean we chuck the entire enchilada because it doesn’t fit in your idea of “keeping it all the same”. You think all the blacksmiths back in the day enjoyed the introduction of the combustion engine.. or oil production? Displaced workers is the price of innovation.. and progress. The trick is to keep that shift as low impact as possible and evolve over time rather than just giving it all up at once.
Dear Doug:
Actually, I’m following the science. You might do a bit of reading in the SMM EV archive. Therein, you’ll find I do not oppose EVs for their own sake, but merely point out the technology just doesn’t exist for them to replace most motor vehicles. Nor does the technology exist to make the kinds of lunatic schemes Gavin Newsom and Joe Biden want to impose on us all work. Any attempt to try to force us all to drive EVs within 10 to 20 years would result in the economic ruin of the nation, and a return to near pre-industrial squalor. As I keep pointing out, electricity has to be generated, and electricity does not generate itself.
Oh, and the suggestion I oppose innovation? Perhaps you could produce some evidence of that in my writing. One example will do.
Perhaps some day we’ll perfect cold fusion, or some other barely imagined or unimagined breakthrough will occur and fossil fuels will no longer be necessary. Until that day, the disastrous and fiscally ruinous pipe dreams some wish to force down everyone’s throats must be resisted.
As I’ve always written, if an EV will meet your needs, and you have the money, buy one for every day of the week and change them like underwear. That wouldn’t pick my pocket or break my leg. However, in a free market, people have to be willing to buy a product because it meets their needs. Government subsidies and mandates have no place among a free people.
Oh.. you need an example. Here’s more along your past service… as soon as “defunding the police” came out you (and others) automatically presume it’s your usual “D/S/C” (misnomer) time to get rid of cops. I’ve replied to any number of such posts you’ve made that policing going into the 21st century could use some definite review and re-thinking on multiple fronts and while the emotional knee-jerk about “de-funding police” taken literally gives your singular Conservative mindset ammo against Liberals, the greater message in all that is nothing about dumping police but examining law enforcement in general to reduce police deaths and civilian deaths… and it isn’t all about “just cops”. You simply see it all as “cops under attack”. You lack vision. Same goes for the Second Amendment jabber… any level of gun control and off you go with “Liberals want to take our guns”… which then somehow translates into civilian armies coming into homes to take your guns. (wtf?) A little innovation and creativity would help find a medium. Too much circling the wagons out of fear you are going to lose something.
Dear Doug:
Uh, I was asking for an example from this article, Doug…
I’ll bet you were pulled kicking and screaming when police phased out the straight baton for the side-handle baton.
Dear Doug:
Do try to stay on topic, if you would, please. This comment, for example, is detached from reality.
One needn’t somehow be opposed to innovation to understand that innovation does not always come according to a nice, neat schedule. The earth is blessed with seemingly boundless, perfectly clean energy . . . in the 23rd century, according to Star Trek.
But, alas! Star Trek is fiction. We may eventually get to a Star Trek future, but we aren’t there yet, and are unlikely to be there for long after we have all gone to our eternal rewards.
It has always been so easy for people with plenty of money to propose things which will take money out of everyone’s pockets, including the pockets of the paycheck-to-paycheck working families.
Dear Dana Pico:
It’s very easy to spend other people’s money.
Mr McDaniel wrote:
In my small parish, we have one member who has a plug-in Chevy Dolt. Hey, that’s fine, his money and his choice, but there are no commercial charging stations in this rural, eastern Kentucky county. He has a charging station at his home.
Despite my being an [insert slang term for the rectum here], I have refrained from pointing out to him that, around here, our electricity comes from a coal burning power plant. :)
Now, I’m lucky: I have a workshop/garage with separate electric service, and I can easily install a 50 amp 240 volt circuit to power a home charging station. But it doesn’t take much driving around to see that I am in the minority in that: most people don’t have safe garages or secure, dedicated parking spaces in which to install such. More, I have the knowledge, skills and tools to install it myself, but that puts me in a very decided minority; how many people would have to shell out $300 or more to a real sparktrician to install a home charging station?
If you don’t have a home charging station, you’re going to have to find a commercial one, and even if there’s no line at all, sit there for perhaps more than an hour to recharge.
Dear Dana Pico:
What you said.
Lefto-pukes don’t care one bit about the environment.
They do care and a lot about confusing and harming their prospective prey, decent and normal folks, in order to better defeat free people and enslave us to their ant-hill with a one-hive-mind under a ‘One World Government’ part of a ‘New World Order’ of soros approved wokeraty.
The “electric” thing is nothing but a con job to destroy America and Western civilization and thwart individualism by depriving us of the internal combustion engine and the private vehicle and the freedom they entail.
And I see kuntala harris as part of a REAL terrible disease that needs a solution and pronto: lefto-pukes. ALL OF THEM.
We have zero problems with hydrocarbons.
We have hydrocarbons till the Sun goes cold.
We haven’t even started to tap the humongous reserves of gas we have on this planet.
There’s so much gas at the bottom of the oceans that we will probably never run out.
And it may be that there’s still more hydrocarbons being generated that we can exploit in due time.
The electric vehicle is a lefto-pukes con job.
Another of many.
It looks like a solution in search of a problem.
But it is another lefto-puke battering ram against normal human life, freedom, decency and individualism and the American way.
We are at war with a missionary and aggressive new religion, leftism, that aims to replace all others and enslave us all under their Maarx Moloch cult of “social justice”
We need to put them all underground were they can, in due time, become hydrocarbons so they can go in the fuel tanks of our huge private American made trucks because that’s the only thing they are good for.
I recently wrote a far less detailed blog about this issue. The left are like children, they want what they want, right now, to hell with everything else. Logic be damned. We are so far away from having a sufficient electrical grid to support an entire electric environment, with all electric homes, cars, trucks, and busses. Whoever pulled the year 2035 out of thin air, is not even close. This is a massive undertaking, that most people don’t have the ability to comprehend. Doug is obviously one of those folks. Good job on the blog as usual.
Dear steelpencil:
Good analogy indeed. Not only do they want it right now, they’re so moral, brilliant and virtuous, they believe they have an absolute right to impose it on everyone.
Ah.. and example “only” from what you posted here. Well.. the entire tone is nothing but criticizing the limitations not only in the science you perceive but also in the application, along with the usual lamentations about politicians you don’t like, making you pay for things you don’t like… and making policy you don’t like… because they have other ideas you don’t like… and they fit the villainy you assign to them. I see no inkling of encouraging innovation here.. just discarded windmill blades destroying the environment.
Dear Doug:
Yes. I expressed opinions. I’m allowed to do that, and you’re still dodging the question.
I didn’t dodge a thing.. you asked for an example in your post where you promoted innovation and creativity… given the bulk of your political posts (the other one’s are generally pretty good) serve to simply criticize and tear down.
It’s akin to,,,, “What.. I have to submit to the D/S/C’s in charge of my tax dollars that are going to pay for putting some guy on the top of a rocket and send him into space when we should be leaving senseless stuff like that up to the private sector if that’s what they want to blow their money on.. and for what reason would I want to pay for that??”
Yep.. you indeed provided opinion and yep, it’s your blog. In the end I am doing the same thing as well.
And that’s assuming you live in a mild climate not too cold, needing heating on a regular basis. and not too warm ending AC either. Here in Alberta we burn natural gas for heating some eight months of the year. There is no conceivable way we can turn that to electric! Our grid can barely handle what is needed for furnace fans and lights in December and January. With no affordable new battery technology in sight and with most enviros against more nuclear, I can’t see any way for the deadlock of storage for “renewables” to be solved in the next two decades.
But i sure see lots of politicians who are willing to spend my tax dollars on unproven technology just to show environmental street cred. Think Solyndra but on a much larger and more corrupt scale.
Dear wardalanm:
Quite so. And even if completely mature battery technology did exist, and it was sufficiently efficient to be cost effective, the electricity to charge those batteries still has to come from somewhere.
re: Dana
“Despite my being an [insert slang term for the rectum here], I have refrained from pointing out to him that, around here, our electricity comes from a coal burning power plant. :)”
sorry, I don’t know what to click on to have replied directly to your comment. so…
The thing is that when comparing electricity generation methods, you also have to compare these two situations:
1) personal power generation
2) community generation
If a person burned coal to charge their electric car, it would create more polution than the amount of polution created by the generating plant to produce the power needed to charge the same electric car.
That being said, I think electric vehicles are better because (with the exception of rubber from the tyres and if they’re powered by hydroectric power) nearly all of the polution is created during the manufacturing process and not every time the vehicle is used, as is the case with ICE vehicles.
Of course, if I’m incorrect, please feel free to point this out.
What is going to happen when millions of
electric batteries have to be replaced?
Dear Fuzzy:
This is an issue I’ve frequently addressed. EV batteries do not last forever, and cost many thousands to replace. Then there is the problem of disposal of battery packs many times larger and more dangerous than a standard vehicle battery. They cannot, with present technology, be affordably recycled, and they contain many dangerous elements.
I don’t dispute that internal combustion engines pollute. My point is that the incoming Administration wants to force all vehicles sold in the United States to be zero emission by 2035, and we have neither the technology nor the infrastructure to support such.
Back in 2019, when Our Betters so graciously allowed us to take vacations, my wife and I wet to Kure Beach, North Carolina, a roughly 600 mile drive. This required a mid-journey fuel stop each way, a stop which took 10 minutes out of our journey. Had we been in a Chevy Dolt, we’d have needed two stops each way, and even assuming that the charging station was right there, it would have been a 75 to 90 minute stop each time.
Of course, that was in the summer. In winter weather, batteries do not hold their charges nearly as long, and some guesstimates have range being virtually halved for plug in electrics.
Me? I’m lucky: if I had to have a plug in electric, I have a secure place in which I can install a home charging station, and could keep the vehicle inside during winter weather, meaning that the batteries would not be so cold, and thus have longer winter driving range. But I’d also guess that I’m very much in the minority.
“We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard….”
And that goal.. to go from literally zero-to-120 in a completely new industry… was for only ten years.
We just did the unimaginable.. the medical scientific community creating a vaccine within a year.
Now.. if you prefer to believe.. as many who follow this blog do.. that the sole intent of government is just to be corrupt.. the moon landing was staged… the vaccine is all fake or made up of nano-bots to make us compliant… that’s on you.. go for it if it makes you feel accepted.
Either lead, follow, or get out of the way.
Dear Doug:
The examples you cite are not analogous to the intention of some to upend the economy on the basis of non-existent technology. The moon landing and production of a vaccine were accomplishments possible because the technology already existed, or any technological innovations necessary were not only possible, but could be accomplished with contemporary science and manufacturing methods.
You continue to erect straw men, arguing people who oppose your views hold beliefs they do not hold and do not argue.
Leadership does not consist of destroying the economy of a nation and the lives of tens, even hundreds of millions, chasing non-existent technologies just because.
You mean, chasing anything that doesn’t meet with your own opinions… or Trump’s. Matter of perspective, and in the end no one cares about what any of us think. Somehow I think electric cars is not a current priority.
Dear Dana Pico:
Quite so. We must always be suspicious of government EV mileage estimates. They have proved to be–let’s say this kindly–overly optimistic. So if the “official” range figure is 250 miles, it would be wise to think it no more than 200, and that’s probably being kind again.
Even if one has a garage and home charger in winter, the vehicle still has to be driven in the cold, which means the diminished range induced by cold is always a factor, particularly if the vehicle is driven any distance from home, as in a trip from town to town.
Dear Stine:
All available information indicates the pollution produced by the mining, manufacturing and power generation necessary to charge EVs greatly exceeds the pollution produced by internal combustion vehicles. With an all-EV fleet, the pollution would be even worse.
Internal combustion engines DO NOT POLLUTE! They emit PLANT FOOD gasses, which…. get this…. FEED PLANTS AND TREES! Seriously, not kidding. But wait, it gets even better. Ready for this? Plants and trees, as living entities, poop out waste, and their waste is… OXYGEN! Hey, that is what we breathe! Yes, it’s true. Pretty cool ey?
As far as fossil fuels goes, it has become so blatantly obvious that its not dead dinosaurs that will run out any day, but the Earth using carbon and constantly making oil that we humans will actually never be able to use it all and run out of it.
A little critical thinking goes a long way.
Oh, and if an idea is presented by anyone from the left, it is wrong, period. That cant be proven wrong, with even a single example.
Thanks Mike for another great article!
Dear Ryan H:
Quite so. When one begins an argument with the conviction their ideas are non-falsifiable, there’s no debating them. And thanks!
Electric Vehicles help us to keep protect from carbon expansion. Increasing the availability of sustainable energy. But this is challenging. I think proper planning and execution help us to increase the ability of sustainability.