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With the probability of a Harris Administration—Biden is just the bait in the biggest bait and switch scam in history—two common anti-liberty/gun lies take on new currency (1) the idea that the Founders wrote the Second Amendment to oppose the government is an outrage; (2) If the Founders knew about weapons like the AR-15, they would have never written the Second Amendment. With a Republican controlled Senate, these issues may—may—be mostly moot. But should the vote fraud machine again go into overdrive in Georgia…
Let us review the Second Amendment ratified on December 15, 1791:
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The Founders did not grant a right. They believed in unalienable, natural rights, rights given us by the Creator. As such, they are beyond the ability of man to grant or rescind. From the natural right of self-defense, the right without which no other right matters, flows the means necessary to secure that right. If we are to move beyond a world where the youngest, biggest, strongest and most vicious decide who lives and dies, all must have the weapons most common, usual and effective for self-defense, and they must be able to carry those weapons everywhere. A right to self-defense confined to one’s home is no right at all. So the Second Amendment merely acknowledges the most important right, and limits the government in any attempt to rescind it, as the Founders knew some future government would inevitably be tempted to do.
But this is not the only utility of the Second Amendment. The Founders were very worried about a standing army, because standing armies of their time were so often used to oppress the people, just as they re today . In the Second Amendment, they found balance, because the “militia” of their time, was every man capable of bearing arms, all of the citizens, bringing their own arms when called in defense of the state. “Well-regulated” did not mean a standing army, quite the opposite. The people, they reasoned, would be a powerful check on any government seeking to deprive them of their liberties, because the people were the army—the militia. A well-regulated militia was merely a well organized, drilled, practiced militia, men capable of functioning as soldiers when called to service. It was necessary to the security of a free state because politicians seeking to become despots would know the very army they would need to oppress and subjugate the people, was the people, thus would the state, which derives it’s just powers from the consent of the people, remain free.
Consider Alexander Hamilton, writing as “Publius” in The Federalist #29:
But though the scheme of disciplining the whole nation must be abandoned as mischievous or impracticable; yet it is a matter of the utmost importance that a well-digested plan should, as soon as possible, be adopted for the proper establishment of the militia. The attention of the government ought particularly to be directed to the formation of a select corps of moderate extent, upon such principles as will really fit them for service in case of need. By thus circumscribing the plan, it will be possible to have an excellent body of well-trained militia, ready to take the field whenever the defense of the State shall require it. This will not only lessen the call for military establishments, but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist.
Here, Hamilton states the concerns of so many of the Founders. It is the people—the militia—using their own arms, that in time of need, will muster to defend the nation. And because they are the army, no standing army is necessary, in fact, is to be avoided. They will defend their own rights against enemies foreign and domestic, and will be properly motived to do just that. That America, growing in numbers, power and foreign responsibilities, eventually found a standing military establishment necessary does not diminish the Founder’s intentions and worries. Until now, uncontested civilian control of the military has served as an additional check and balance.
There is something so far-fetched and so extravagant in the idea of danger to liberty from the militia, that one is at a loss whether to treat it with gravity or with raillery; whether to consider it as a mere trial of skill, like the paradoxes of rhetoricians; as a disingenuous artifice to instil prejudices at any price; or as the serious offspring of political fanaticism. Where in the name of common-sense, are our fears to end if we may not trust our sons, our brothers, our neighbors, our fellow-citizens? What shadow of danger can there be from men who are daily mingling with the rest of their countrymen and who participate with them in the same feelings, sentiments, habits and interests? What reasonable cause of apprehension can be inferred from a power in the Union to prescribe regulations for the militia, and to command its services when necessary, while the particular States are to have the SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE APPOINTMENT OF THE OFFICERS? If it were possible seriously to indulge a jealousy of the militia upon any conceivable establishment under the federal government, the circumstance of the officers being in the appointment of the States ought at once to extinguish it. There can be no doubt that this circumstance will always secure to them a preponderating influence over the militia.
Hamilton’s assumptions have proved to be prescient. To date, the mere idea of American killing American for political advantage has been essentially unthinkable. This is why communist states have always conscripted peasants, and shipped them far from their homes, their people, so they would be more willing to kill their countrymen. Sadly, Hamilton’s wise calculation may, if things deteriorate too much further, no longer hold.
Consider James Madison, writing in The Federalist #46:
Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the state governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops.
In 2017, there were about 1.3 million active duty service members, with something more than 800,000 reserve forces. Circa 2020, the US population is about 331 million. But no matter how large, no force armed only with small arms could stop a modern army. More on this in a moment.
Those who are best acquainted with the last successful resistance of this country against the British arms, will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it. Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.
In other words, America is a union of separate states, peoples owing allegiance to those state governments. As Admiral Yamamoto is said to have warned that any occupying force would be confronted by a rifle behind every blade of grass, the number of weapons in the hands of Americans–the militia–is formidable. Those that claim a modern military would crush dissent know nothing of logistics, tactics and strategy. They also assume military members would be glad to murder fellow Americans—their friends, neighbors, their families and relatives—for a craven politician like Kamala Harris. Take this link to an article by author Larry Correia–everyone should know it–to explore this issue.
Madison was serious in noting Americans, unlike any other people, are armed. No monarchy, no tyranny can long survive if the people can rise up against it. He was demonstrating our system was written to prevent conflict. Surely no politician, no matter how power mad, would try to subjugate Americans if they understood the military power of America is the citizens themselves. Until now, this deterrent has, largely, worked.
Understanding this, we can see how stupid is the idea the Founders would never have written the Second Amendment if they could foresee modern weapons. They saw every American as the militia, and were content that they have the most powerful, effective weapons of their time. They surely would have seen AR-15s as an even more powerful vindication of their check and balance on tyranny, and would have been delighted to have them. It is not the tool, but the principle. The more effective the tool, the more effectively is tyranny deterred.
Circa 2020, we stand at a tipping point. D/S/Cs seem hell bent on tearing down the checks and balances that have prevented conflict, and they are no longer hiding their intention to disarm the American people, to eliminate the militia and to deprive them of their voice of dissent. No government that seeks to disarm the people is legitimate, and their intentions reveal their goals: domination of the people, and the usurpation of their unalienable rights.
I don’t know about you, gentle readers, but I’d absolutely trust a government that took all my arms at gunpoint, threatening to gleefully slaughter me and my entire family if I didn’t turn them over. Surely such a government would never, ever turn—what’s the word?–tyrannical?
Frightening times we live in.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:24 PM Stately McDaniel Manor wrote:
> Mike McDaniel posted: “With the probability of a Harris > Administration—Biden is just the bait in the biggest bait and switch scam > in history—two common anti-liberty/gun lies take on new currency (1) the > idea that the Founders wrote the Second Amendment to oppose the government > ” >
Dear Debra Petres:
Frightening indeed.
You made my ribs sore I laughed so hard! I hope you don’t mind that I sent this to a few friends.
Dear PuringKitten:
Welcome to SMM. I’m glad you’re enjoying yourself, and of course you can share, just as long as you properly attribute–if you’re going to reblog or that sort of thing. Otherwise, share far and wide. Thanks!
Thanks, may I call you Mike? My name is Peter. I enjoy your blog and what you send me very much. I don’t blog, I’m here to be able to follow you and others. I’m disabled and have a hard time with chronic pain, a left arm & hand that don’t work, and my right leg was almost severed. When I’m a little better off I’ll start to blog. Right now, all of you are entertaining and teaching me. Thanks!
Dear Peter:
Mike is fine, and thanks for your kind words. I’ll add you to my prayers for your recovery and relief of pain.
The militia will not be stupid enough to directly engage US troops armed with Apache gun ships and Abrahms tanks. The militia will be engaging in combat against people who are stupid enough to still have a Biden Harris bumper sticker on their car. After the first few million ANTIFA/BLM types are subjected to a lethal dose of lead poisoning, the results of the election will be revised.
BTW, you don’t fight against the gunships, you attack the base that has the gun ships and take it over. Then, the retired gun ship pilots in our group fly the gun ships against the enemy. The same goes for tanks and other heavy weapons.
The closest we have to a well regulated militia today is former active duty military members. Once you’ve been to uncle sugars trade school, you never really forget what you learn. This leads me to conclude that we need universal military service, I.E., every able bodied man and woman serves two years after high school and then goes about their merry way. When the time comes, if it does, the skills are there.
Of course, we could start forming militias….
Dear Phil:
Quite so. In that kind of conflict, it’s suicide to fight battles that can’t be won, so those weapons systems are attacked at their bases. Drone control equipment and those that run it are eliminated, and the pilots and maintenance personal for attack helicopters, etc. are destroyed. It’s unlikely patriots would seize and fly attack helicopters. What most people don’t realize is they, and tracked vehicles, are short ranged, very maintenance intensive, and rely on long supply lines for parts, ordinance and fuel. In a war, the regime would quickly realize how expensive things like Hellfire missiles are, and how idiotic it would be to use them on civilian vehicles and troops in the open. All of that infrastructure can be successfully attacked, particularly if a regime force is trying to take and hold the vast expanses of middle America.
Of course, we must all do everything possible to keep any of this from ever becoming necessary.
Nice tag at the end there, Mike. You spend the entire post calling Americans.. oh.. the “real” Americans.. to arms because you feel threatened by other Americans.. then you do the disclaimer… we have to do everything possible to keep this from happening…. but isn’t that the thrust of your entire post here.. taking things to the “next” level to keep it all from happening?
Dear Master Troll Doug,
Ah yes, these Cassandras! The presumption of
Mike–who does he think he is, Churchill?
Your little Trollop, Dug
Dear Doug:
You’ve said you’re a gun owner and Republican. You’re not threatened by those promising to eliminate our natural and electoral rights? You don’t find politicians threatening to seize your guns concerning?
And no, writing about the logical results of oppressive government overreach is not encouraging that overreach. The media certainly won’t warn of these things, so I do my part on this scruffy little blog.
I don’t deny your right to express your thoughts on your blog… you know that. To the greater reality.. is why do I bother following a blog that is so diametrically in opposition to my own opinions… then opinionate back knowing full well the entire exchange will tend to amount to nothing more than an exercise in frustration, although there’s some “entertainment” when one or more of your followers get “tired” of me. Lot’s of Conservative-only blogs are simply echo chambers and that can get old and routine for their own followers.
As for what I am not fearful of regarding gun control…. and threatening politicians. This is what politicians do.. test waters of their constituents. What I fear is the inevitable impulse reaction of the general public each and every time there is a mass shooting somewhere. One of these days will bring a breaking point (I actually thought Sandy Hook would be that point.. but, nah.. killing our kids is not important) and people are going to overreach without using common sense… and then the Second might suffer some limitations. It’s happening right now with free speech conflicting with the vast numbers of people believing in fake news/fake facts/fake science.. whether it’s home brew or done by belligerent nations. There are so many lies permeating cyber space that now the tech companies are doing the little dance around censorship. Trump himself is the greatest purveyor of lies and mistruths yet I am not crazy about social media worming into censuring his Tweets. The effect is far greater than Trump himself. I personally think that threat is far worse than perceived threats to the Second.
Dear Doug:
Hmm. The “Russia!” hoax. The impeachment hoax. One might think those lies and mistruths far in excess of any exaggeration of Mr. Trump. One might also think those hoaxes, and the continuing coup, actually dangerous to the Republic.
The helicopter gunship meme shows the leftist attitude: the government, not the people, is “who’s boss.”
And the politicians never meet any military service members except generals and admirals. Who are lifers, and are therefore brown-nosing toadies. So I can believe that the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the C.O. of the Strategic Command would obey an order to nuke Topeka and Flagstaff.
But the order would have to go down the chain of command to company grade officers, not all of whom are lifers.
And most junior enlisted people are short timers, that is, they intend to get out when their hitch is up.
So the Fascists (who call themselves “Democrats”) would get a nasty surprise as to which way the assault rifles would be pointed, and to where the drone strikes would hit, once the SHTF. An order to attack innocent American civilians is the one thing that could provoke widespread mutiny in the US armed forces.
Add to that the civilian employees refusing to deliver fuel and supplies, the arms industry refusing to sell weapons and ammunition to the DOD and DHS, and truckers refusing to deliver anything to the major cities in blue states (most of which are never more than one month away from starvation).
The left will riot at the drop of a hat and will drop the hat themselves, but will cave at the slightest resistance. The right will endure a huge amount of provocation, but once the limit is reached, it’s on. And it will be bloody.
Dear Tom:
That’s am important point. Politicians threatening force do indeed believe their power comes from their superior intellects and morality, not from a smelly, missing toothed, relative humping, God and gun clinging “people.” They may discover otherwise.
Remember, in the big picture, those are our weapons, not the left’s. We paid for them. They’ve also disarmed most military bases in “peace time”. Those rules don’t apply to us. Modern military doctrine is to issue carbines, I.E. 5.56mm weapons to keep the enemy’s heads down until the tanks arrive. Modern hunting rifles use battle rifle cartridges. Marksmanship counts. Eliminating heads, not keeping them down is what will be required.
I just happened to watch the Battle of Athens on Youtube a few minutes ago. I live in a small village in central NC. I wonder how we go about forming a militia.
Have all your neighbors bring their guns and meet in the center of your street out front and compare barrel lengths. The longest barrel runs the show.
Dear Voice in the Wilderness:
As the Founders believed, we are a militia, which is why D/S/Cs are so desperate to disarm us.
Doug, |
You should keep a firmer hand
on your sexual fantasies.
Peter
At my age little is left except contribute to the mental masturbation that goes on in here.
Saw a poster on the net that read “the Founding Fathers would have been piling up corpses by now”
Me thinks it’s just about right. They would have. Yup!
The Steal is already tyranny.
Those who brought about The Steal are tyrants and they are already carrying out a “long train of abuses and usurpations”
And any dead lefto-pukes out there that I see have mostly been killed by the incompetence or the ill will of their own numbers.
Our side hasn’t even begun to shoot.
Small incidents notwithstanding.
Now, there’s one thing that is not mentioned in the 2nd Amendment and that thing is balls.
They are not mentioned because the Founding Fathers had their own in good order and didn’t see fit to tell future men to keep theirs appropriately.
For them, that was a given.
Let’s add the little item of:
“Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies
and feminine democracies give way to tyranny”
attributed, I hope correctly, to Aristotle and
that put another way goes:
“Valor produces peace;
peace, repose;
repose, disorder;
disorder, ruin”
this one attributed to Niccolo Machiavelli and
then others of similar color:
“Hard times create strong men.
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create hard times”
and:
“From good civilizations come weak men;
from weak men come bad civilizations,
from bad civilizations come strong men;
from strong men come good civilizations”
Now, there seems to be a common theme, here: “masculine”, “valor”, “strong” To me it means balls.
And many men have been educated by many single mothers and put down by feminazism and misandry for quite a number of decades and in a growing tempest of man hating phenomena have had their balls filed away into nothingness. They shrink. And disappear. Not all of us, granted. But many.
So we have a 2nd Amendment.
What I put in doubt is the balls to use it.
With all due respect.
So here’s the thing.
In that famous “shot heard around the world” our guys “stood their ground”, right?
Now imagine a modern gathering of 2nd Amendment enthusiasts out to right the wrongs and for the vagaries of fortune they find themselves confronted by the local SWAT team that orders them to turn over their guns and consider themselves under arrest.
What do we do?
Because that is one of the things that most likely WILL happen . . . and often . . .
It will.
And we’d better have the answers before it does.
Um.. if the Dems are (allegedly) trying to defund the police.. who is paying for SWAT guys to invade your home and take your guns? Unless of course, a social worker goes with on those raids… to make sure the cops don’t go too far?
Doug:
“Allegedly?” ALLEGEDLY?! Have you just been awakened after centuries in suspended animation? Actually, this is one of the many self-contradictory aspects of D/S/C pseudo-thinking. Abolish the police, but depend on the police for all manner of policing.
Dear Master Troll Doug,
Ummmmmmmmmmm….let’s see. How about the
government has a paramilitary unit–let’s call
them Brownshirts–that has better firepower
than a neutered local police and
the authority or permission to invade homes
of those who need to be dealt with for having
the wrong political thoughts. That’s too far-fetched
to imagine in our country, isn’t it, cause we are
exceptional.
Right, Doug?
That’s how I would argue it, but I am only a
troll in training.
Your little trollop, Dug
Are we on some verge of some Nazi/fascist government inventing a party police force to invade homes? If so.. I must have been out that day and didn’t get the memo. That’s quite a jump comparing anything in our government relating in any way to Nazi fascism. Here’s to my greater point… if one believes in the Constitution then there would be no need for your wild speculation. In fact.. give me an instance where the Constitution itself has failed… oh.. let’s take, in the last four years, or 12 years… just to keep things current?
Dear Doug:
The Constitution has not failed. What has failed is the willing determination of about half of the nation to defend and uphold it. You know this.
What I know is that statistically it’s impossible to even presume what you just said. Rather falls under “common sense”. But even that’s relative.
Dear Doug:
I have no idea what you just wrote means.
Someone please refresh my memory. Didn’t Obama talk about the need to create an alternate military made up of “government” employees? He also initiated a program to arm just about every type of agency in the federal govt. Gazillions of guns and ammo were purchased for these agencies, and where are the goods now?
RE previous post; I live on a street of about 20 homes, and it ends in a cul-de-sac. Of the 9 homes that are the closest to mine, there are 7 AR-15’s. That means there will be a convergence of 8 red-dots on any mob marching up the street.
“Is Obama planning to have a Civilian Security Force in addition to the military? “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” Obama said. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
That plank in the future president’s platform was quickly removed, but evidently not discarded. It seems that it was merely safely tucked away until a more opportune time.”
The above was excerpted from Doug Mainwaring’s Oct. 11, 2013 article in American Thinker.
Dear Voice in the Wilderness:
Your memory is accurate. Obama did advocate for a civilian force as well equipped as our military to enforce his domestic policies, and under his administration, the federal government bought arms and ammunition at such a rate as to cause years of shortages. Biden is no different. A visit to the anti-liberty/gun portion of his website–https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/–reveals this:
“Reform, fund, and empower the U.S. Justice Department to enforce our gun laws. Biden will direct his Attorney General to deliver to him within his first 100 days a set of recommendations for restructuring the ATF and related Justice Department agencies to most effectively enforce our gun laws. Biden will then work to secure sufficient funds for the Justice Department to effectively enforce our existing gun laws, increase the frequency of inspections of firearms dealers, and repeal riders that get in the way of that work.”
One doesn’t need to read very far between the lines to understand he plans to greatly expand federal anti-liberty/gun forces.