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The debate was contentious, and for those that like formal, utterly polite formats, unsatisfying. It was not an occasion that will be likely to change millions of minds. But if I’m correct, that wasn’t President Trump’s plan. He was working to motivate his base, and he did that—in spades. Not only did he not lose a single voter, he likely spurred many that weren’t planning to vote to action. Joe Biden, on the other hand, almost certainly lost the more radical portions of his potential support, which is most of the D/S/C Party these days.
Winner: Donald Trump. He made a number of excellent points that will very much resonate with his base. He was, without question, the alpha male, and he dominated the evening. If what one is looking for in a national leader is strength, force of will and character, and energy, he’s the only choice. Actually, who in their right mind is looking for the opposite, other than America’s enemies, foreign and domestic?
Loser: Chris Wallace, who made an attempt at appearing to be fair, and to be fair, I’m sure he thought he was. But in reality, he rescued Biden on several occasions, and framed questions very much to the disadvantage of President Trump. I’ve written how disappointed I’ve become in Wallace over the last few years.
I now consider him a lost cause where objectivity is concerned. If he didn’t work for Fox, he’d be little different from the worst of the other networks.
Present: Joe Biden. His supporters will claim victory because he didn’t drool, forget who he was, or walk off camera. They will also say he proved he’s not senile. Not so. As the 90 minutes wore on, he had more and more difficulty making sense, frequently conflating multiple unrelated ideas, and don’t get me started on grammatically correct sentences. Grading student papers I often found page-long, stream of consciousness, run-on pseudo sentences. Biden made several of those. I’d list them verbatim, but like a deaf translator, I just couldn’t keep up. Perhaps when a transcript is available…
So, gentle readers, my initial thoughts on the debate. I may have more tomorrow when I’ve had time to think about things a bit more.
Donald Trump: Where most men are dramatically aged by their time in the Oval Office, Trump seems to be younger and more energized. I haven’t been able to detect any physical changes in the last four years. His energy level is off the charts, and he remained in confident control of himself. He knew what he was going to do, for the most part did it, and kept an even demeanor.
In the first question about his Supreme Court nomination of Amy Coney Barrett, Biden argued that the American people should have a choice about such things. Mr. Trump calmly pointed out that he was elected president, the Senate was given to Republicans by the voters, and neatly threw one of Barack Obama’s comments “elections have consequences,” figuratively into Biden’s face. He noted he was elected to serve for four years, and of course, he was right about it all.
Part of Mr. Trump’s strategy was to point out Biden is beholden to the most radical elements of the D/S/C Party, and Biden never had a real answer. Several times, Trump brought up the Bernie Sanders manifesto, entirely embraced by Biden and published in voluminous form as a campaign document. Biden denied any such manifesto existed.
Perhaps his best line of the night was: “I’ve done more in 47 months than you did in 47 years.” Mr. Biden was never able to provide any real accomplishment for all his years in office. President Trump was also able to expose former Vice President Biden on his failure to support law enforcement particularly and law and order generally. He challenged him to say “law enforcement”—he wouldn’t—observing he couldn’t because his leftist base would abandon him. He really hit home when he challenged Biden to name one law enforcement organization that endorsed him, provoking silence and a real deer in the headlights moment.
When Biden tried to suggest Trump wasn’t for a peaceful transition, Trump deftly turned the tables. He pointed out Democrats haven’t yet made a peaceful transition from 2016, attacking him in a coup even before he got the nomination. He brought up the September 29 revelation of Hillary Clinton’s deeper role in the coup, but Wallace, of course, didn’t touch that.
Mr. Trump also noted “China ate your lunch,” and brought up Biden family corruption, speaking of the millions Hunter Biden got from foreign sources, particularly the $3.5 million from the wife of Moscow’s mayor. Biden denied it all, claiming it has been “debunked.” When pressed about who debunked it, all he could reply was “everyone.” Don’t expect media fact checkers to tell the truth about any of this.
Wallace framed a question about Mr. Trump’s executive order to do away with critical race theory indoctrination in the federal government as though it was a bad thing, referring to it only as “racial sensitivity training.” He demanded to know why Mr. Trump did away with it. Trump’s answer was particularly strong as he pointed out it was racist, and anti-American propaganda. Wallace tried to push him on it to no avail.
When asked to speak to their records, Mr. Trump did, though he left out much he could easily have cited. In response, Biden merely attacked Trump.
At another point, where Covid was the issue, Mr. Trump was forcefully pointing out that Biden would shut down America, destroying the economy, which even Wallace had to admit was doing well. He was obviously doing too well and Wallace shut him down.
Wallace demanded Trump address “the science of climate change,” framing the question to support the D/S/C “Trump is anti-science” narrative. Trump didn’t let him get away with it, even though he restated the question several times.
I’ll get back to his, but Biden declared: “I am the Democrat Party right now.” Mr. Trump immediately quipped: “Not according to Harris.” That one left a mark.
Joe Biden: Biden continues to look every day of his 77 years (he’d be 78 on inauguration day if elected). He was obviously more energetic and awake than he has been in many appearances, but that it likely because his campaign has been resetting his biological clock so he could have a few good hours during the debate. That’s what all the “lids” have been about the last month. Doubtless, he was drugged, not just with medication for dementia, but stimulants. His forehead—the central portion—appears to be stretched tight, while the sides of his head were wrinkled. He was pale, and while his voice was not quite as affected by age as it usually is, it is clearly not the voice of a vital man. His eyes were often wide and staring, seemingly momentarily unfocused. However, he did have substantially more hair than we’ve seen in recent weeks. By any objective measurement, and we can be sure America’s enemies are measuring, Biden would have his lunch eaten by foreign foes.
Attacking Amy Coney Barrett, Biden proclaimed “Roe vs. Wade is on the ballot.” Trump replied: “No it’s not,” and noted there was nothing going on regarding that law. Biden had no reply.
Wallace did ask Biden if he would pack the Supreme Court or end the filibuster, but Biden would not answer, saying if he did, people would make his answer an issue. That’s rather what politics is about: taking stances on issues and selling them. Biden said virtually nothing about his stances on any issue, though he did say to solve violence in our cities, he’d get protestors, and police and other folks together in a room at the White House and talk things out, because he’s the guy who can unite America and bring everyone together. Oh yes: “Antifa is just an idea.”
Biden is taking a substantial risk here. Will the Socialist/Communist left give him “a wink and a nod” credit for not specifically saying what they know he believes and will do, or demand he be specific about spouting their talking points? One suspects Bernie, AOC and similar budding despots are not happy with Joe tonight.
Biden was also rude and disrespectful. Doubtless, Mr. Trump hoped to get Biden to blow up, and he came very close on several occasions. Biden called the President a “clown,” constantly accused him of lying—he provided no examples of a lie—and frequently accused him of using “dog whistles” and being a racist, again, providing not a single example. When Mr. Trump pressed Biden to answer Wallace’s question about packing the Supreme Court, saying: “Why aren’t you going to answer that question?” Biden replied: “Would you shut up, man?” Trump also asked Biden about his potential Supreme Court nominees: “Who is on your list, Joe?” Biden replied: “This is so unpresidential.”
Speaking about the Wuhan virus, Biden accused Trump of having no plan—he never produced his own—and launched into a bizarre rant about someone going to Wuhan or not going to Wuhan. I couldn’t understand it, and after 25 years in the English classroom, I can understand just about anything.
On the economy, Biden resorted to Marxist class warfare, attacking the wealthy—he’s going to tax their shorts off—and made another nonsense argument, essentially arguing—I think—schools and businesses can’t open without huge government handouts first. He also said the economy can’t be fixed until Covid is fixed first. I wonder if he has informed the virus? Maybe he can bring everyone together with that too.
Wallace did bring up that Biden’s platform included some four trillion in additional taxes. Biden claimed that would somehow create seven million jobs (?!), got confused, and was beginning to spin off into the weeds, but Wallace quickly rescued him and moved on.
Asked about race, Biden said it was about “equity, equality, decency,” and “It’s about the Constitution,” and again launched into a nonsensical rant about George Floyd, a protest outside the White House, a church, a bishop and it was somehow bad because Trump. I’m looking forward to a transcript; it made no sense to me.
Biden said “one in a thousand” black people had been killed by the Coronavirus, and if Trump gets reelected, “one in 500” will be killed.
At Wallace’s prompting, Biden agreed America is full of systemic racism, and managed to say: “violence is never appropriate.” That was one obviously drilled into his head by his debate coaches, and he rememvered! Oh, and Mr. Biden is now against defunding the police, though he asserted that one of Mr. Trump’s aides—he thought it might have been Kellyanne Conway—said the violence in D/S/C ruled cities actually helps Mr. Trump.
On “the science of climate change,” Biden said there would be “no more coal fired or oil fired plants.” He’s going to replace the entire federal fleet with electric vehicles—I wonder what the batteries for an M1 tank would weigh?—and plant a half million charging stations. He’s also going to weatherize lots of buildings, all of which is going to create millions of jobs.
Biden will immediately rejoin the Paris Climate Accords, because the “Brazil rainforest is being torn down.” He lapsed into another nonsensical rant where he would be giving someone or other 20 billions dollars so they would stop tearing down the forest. When he loses his train of thought and his mouth races on ahead, he leans forward, his eyes become intense, almost black, his face tight, and his forehead sometimes wrinkles a little, as though he has desperately reaching for the next word.
The upshot of his climate change comments is, like Barack Obama, he alone will stop storms, wild fires and floods and save the planet. Perhaps this says it best:
The Green New Deal will pay for itself as it goes forward.
And the more you buy, the more you save. He would soon deny that he was going to implement the Green New Deal. He has his own special plan. I doubt AOC is thrilled about that.’
On election integrity, Biden asserted that we must allow people to vote in any way they please. He also asserted Mr. Trump is trying to keep people from voting. Biden tried to discourse on mail-in ballots, but again, lapsed into nonsense. It wasn’t “I have no idea who I am, where I am, or what language I’m speaking” nonsense, but it was nonsense nonetheless.
Final Thoughts: Oddly, there were no final statements by the candidates. Wallace simply declared the event over. Wallace didn’t quite fact check Trump in Candy Crowley style, but he certainly did his best to disrupt Mr. Trump, and prop up Biden.
While I prefer more of a Lincoln/Douglas format where candidates persuade by reason and logic, America isn’t there anymore. We are no longer arguing over small procedural differences, but over the very existence of the Republic. Donald Trump was elected because he is not a swamp creature, and because he promised to accomplish things and drain the swamp. He has kept his promises, but draining that swamp might be a generational task–not that he hasn’t tried and continues to try. As a result, he has been under constant attack, and it is a testament to his character that he continues to foil and frustrate his attackers. We elected a fighter, and that’s what we saw tonight, though unlike Joe Biden, he didn’t descend to name-calling.
Regarding fact checking, we can be sure the media will find fault in niggling ways, with Mr. Trump’s comments, though I didn’t see a single obvious lie. On the other hand, Mr. Biden engaged in the usual projection—he lied often and badly. He will surely not be called on any of it, even though his lies were bald, easily disproved, and egregious. To be entirely fair, I suspect he doesn’t remember much of it.
I didn’t expect Biden to debate at all. His handlers obviously managed to get his meds right and adjust his schedule so he would be relatively alert in the late evening. They rightly judged failing to debate would be more damaging than looking bad when he did. Will that relative luck continue into the next two debates? Will there be two more? Stay tuned.
Unless he wins some of Trump’s 2016 voters, Biden can’t win (an honest election) in 2020. At this point, that’s not gonna happen. I think the debates have become irrelevant. ='[.]’=
Dear Raycheetah:
We can hope…
I am sure your boy is on the road to re-election! Just in case, he’s got his white supremacists on standby. Smart move!
Chris Wallace probably threw his back out from tossing Biden a
lifeline in this debate. He even pressured Trump on the fake story
about his not condemning the extremist after he specifically
condemned them in his speech that the left took totally out of
context. Wallace jumped on Trump when he spoke out of turn
but said diddly squat when Biden did the same thing.
Let me school Dougie boy on something. The number of white
supremicists, Klansmen, and neo-Nazis in America could not fill
a Super Bowl stadium. Furthermore, all of the groups vote for
Democrats due to their collectivist ideology. Hitler was not a
facist, nor was Mussolini. They were both socialist colllectivists.
In the Civil War era, not a single Republican owned a slave in
the South or the North. The Democrats were still fighting to
maintain segregation into the middle sixties, and fighting
mandatory school busing for integratopn into the early eighties.
Your political savior once stated that busing would turn schools
into jungles. He has made so many racist comments in his
political career they cannot be counted. Blow Job Billy’s
political mentor was the segregationist Senator William Fulbrite.
Al Gore Sr. was a racist segregationst. Felonia von Pantsuits
mentors were the communst Saul Alinsky and Margret Sanger
who wanted to exterminate blacks through abortion and forced
sterilization. And it makes one wonder why the majority of
Planned Eugenics abortion mills are located in the inner-city.
She praised Sanger in 2016. When Robert C Byrd died,
her husband praised the former KKK Exalted Cyclops as one
one of his political mentors.
Name one factually incorrect part of this post or just one
statement that President Trump made that can even be
connected to racism. You wil never find that from a man
who recieved an award from the NAACP and was praised
by black civil rights all over America.
Seems like you got it all figured out, LJ. I’ll not stand in your way. While I’ve accepted being the token anti-Trumper on this blog for all to aim their pro-Trump worship methinks we are way past that. Let me know when you start worrying about America more than defending Trump. I could care less if Biden wins. My concern is only that Trump loses. .. and he’s doing a great job of that on his own, and will get far worse in the days and weeks to come.
Dear Doug:
As I’ve often pointed out, no one here “worships” Donald Trump or any other politicians. That’s the exclusive province of D/S/Cs. As to whether Trump is damaging himself, were that true, the D/S/Cs media would not be encouraging Biden to drop out of the remaining two debates.
Perhaps but not likely the reason. I myself mumbled under my breath while watching… “Why belittle your dignity by affording this clown another night of this American embarrassment.” You say po-tay-toe and I say po-tah-toe.. and the divide goes on. In retrospect… far better to let Trump continue to make a fool of himself (in spite of the laughing stock image of our democracy to the world) and shoot himself in the foot.. as the polls continue to illustrate.
I didn’t think there should have been any debates anyway because I knew damn well it wouldn’t be a structured “debate” at all but a free-for-all given Trump’s propensity for not following the rules. I also knew a debate is futile toward fulfilling some roll of “informing” voters on the fence.. when everyone has already made up their minds… and most assuredly no minds were changed following this debacle. Trump people love Trump-the-bully… and they cheer when he beats up on someone.
By the way, you are incorrect… Trump’s base indeed worships him because he is going to save the country from other Americans who his base fearfully perceive are out to destroy America. After all, he’s got the militias on standby.
Dear Doug:
Surely you know he was speaking figuratively?
Dear Doug:
May I supplest you be cautious about proper use of the word “worship”? There is a vast difference between voting for a politician because one believes their policies most in line with our republican system and thinking one an Obama-like messiah.
Cute. Well events unfolding might be suggesting the Prez might have been exposed to Covid. As much as I despise him as President he’s still a human being and I hope he has passed by any exposure.
Dear Doug:
You anticipate me. I’ll be writing about that issue in the near future.
Dear Leonard Jones:
What you said.
Mike – I am also a Trump supporter and very much appreciated your thoughts. I had a real hard time watching this show, and in fact, finally left. I was bothered by Trump speaking over Biden and also Wallace. He just acted boorishly. I saw no value in his interrupting Biden and saying things like it is Bernie Sanders’s party, etc. I do agree that Chris Wallace is in no way impartial. Can’t stand him.
I left early too. I thought Trump was too aggressive. My son and Dan Bongino today told me it was a two fold effort by Trump; not perfect but effective. He was solidifying his base. Many felt like me on his attack mode but agreed with what he was saying and were still voting for him. The other strategy was to get Biden to offend both the radical and moderate side of his support. He now will not support defunding the police, is not supporting the new green deal, will not take a stand on packing the court, no stand on the filibuster, not supporting 100% universal health care and not committing to another shutdown. His language/personal attacks were out of character from the supposedly adult image he has groomed for himself.
Thanks for that interesting analysis. I continue to support him and his policies. I find him kind of personally aggravating. I watched him interviewed by Maria Bartiromo and, again, he came off as kind of a brute. My girlfriend explains it as he is a guy who has spent a lot of time on construction sites and he has a blue collar mind.
Dear Tony:
There is much to be said for people who say what they mean, mean what they say, and get the job done on time and under budget.
Right. I will vote for him, but I have no desire to hang out with him.
Dear Tony:
As Mark Twain said: “Nothing so needs reforming as the habits of others.”
Mike,
Thanks for watching this so that the rest of us don’t have to.
Dear Sentenza:
I was going to write it was my pleasure, but…
For some reason, I expected Biden to outperform expectations and Trump to underperform, but I was not about to watch a debate. It was irrelevant to my vote at this point because I know where each party leans regarding the descent into tyranny. I appreciate the summary because I trust Mike to give me a fair representation of what he observed, for which I am grateful.
Dear Old Barn:
Glad to do my duty. You’ll find tonight’s follow up article interesting, I suspect.
I agree that debates are now irrelevant. Everyone I know has already made a decision, and are unlikely to change their minds. We already know that Trump is an obnoxious boor, and that Biden is literally incompetent.
A common complaint we often hear is that people vote on personality instead of issues. I disagree. Most people do vote on issues. Welfare recipients vote for whoever promises them the biggest handout. Rich people vote for tax cuts. Workers vote for job security. And so on.
Limousine liberals vote for leftists, and, when choosing which leftist, they may decide based on race and/or sex. Obama because he’s black, Hillary Clinton because she’s a woman, Buttigeig because he’s gay, etc.
The self-imagined-elite have arbitrarily decided that they want a POTUS with internal reproductive organs. Which is why Biden’s age and senility are not really a liability. His “supporters” don’t even want him to serve out his first term. They want him to get elected, then die soon after the inauguration. Then Harris succeeds to the office, and the SIE get their token female (and ethnic black/Indian/whatever) president through the back door.
(The Democrats probably could have had Hillary as president if they had nominated her in 2008, but they dumped her when Barry jumped into the race and became the Shiny New Thing.)
Trump is an obnoxious putz, but he is not a cuck, he is not a dhimmi, and he is not a Stalinist communist. That is how low the bar is now. And I will vote for the Creature From the Black Lagoon if it runs against a Democrats.
“…if it runs against a Democrat.” Singular. Damn autocorrect.
Dear Tom:
Sad, is it not, we don’t have the choice between virtual saints. Oh well. We’re not all that saintly either.
Hi, Mike. Looks like Biden was wired for the debate last night. Big surprise, there. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/weird-appears-joe-bidens-wire-slipped-jacket-presidential-debate/
Dear Matt:
Thanks for the link. I’ll be addressing that in tomorrow’s article.