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Once again, Republicans are proving themselves sooooo richly deserving of the appellation: The Stupid Party. All Democrats have to do is scream Republicans are trying to do something horrible to children, and compare them to Hitler, and Republicans retire to their fainting couches and wilt like pansies under a blowtorch.
The latest faux outrage actually began about a week ago with a tweeted photo of “undocumented immigrant” children being horribly abused “in cages” after being “ripped from the arms” of their parents–who maybe were their parents, or maybe weren’t–by the evil, Nazi Trump administration. It was quickly discovered that photo was from 2014, when the evil, uncompassionate Hitler putting children in cages was Barack Obama–oooops!–and so were all other available photos in support of the narrative. So it was back to the social justice drawing board, and various Democrat members of Congress showed up at facilities housing kids, demanding to be let in to record children crying–Dems scare me too–and to take photographs of the kiddies “in cages,” actually, behind various barriers to keep them from running away, as “undocumented immigrants” tend to do.
It’s all a variation of the “Trump/Hitler is destroying the Constitution by actually following the Constitution and by enforcing the law!” narrative.
As Mr. Trump left a 06-19-18 meeting with Republicans where the immigration issue was discussed, he was harassed by protestors–in the halls of Congress. How is that possible? The protestors were Members of Congress and congressional aids, as The Washington Examiner reports:
An unidentified woman was caught on tape yelling an obscenity at President Trump as he arrived at the U.S. Capitol for his Tuesday immigration meeting with the House Republican caucus.
As Trump’s team walked toward the office of Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., the woman can be heard yelling, ‘Mr. President, fuck you!’ according to a video tweeted by NBC News’ Frank Thorp.
The woman has since been identified as a congressional aide, presumably a Democrat, though her identity remains unknown as this is written. But that wasn’t all. In a separate article, The Washington Examiner reports:
House Democrats and members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus heckled President Trump over his administration’s policy of separating children from their families at the border Tuesday as he left a meeting with the House GOP conference.
Members, including Rep. Michelle Lujan Grisham, D-N.M., and Rep. Juan Vargas, D-Calif., held signs reading ‘Families Belong Together’ and shouted at Trump and administration officials as they left the Capitol.
‘Quit separating the children!’ Vargas said in the president’s direction. ‘Mr. President, don’t you have kids?! Don’t you have kids, Mr. President?! How would you like it if they took your kids?!’
‘We won’t go away!’ one member shouted repeatedly at Trump.
And on the same day,Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was cruelly harassed as she tried to eat dinner at a Washington DC restaurant, forcing her and her companions to leave. The New York Post reports:
Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was forced to leave a trendy Mexican restaurant in Washington, DC, Tuesday night when protesters descended on the eatery shouting ‘Shame!’
Demonstrators occupied DXDC Cocina Mexicana at around 8 p.m. as Nielsen was attempting to have a meal with an unidentified man, according to a video posted on Facebook.
Staff members try to contain the situation as members of the Metro D.C. Democratic Socialists flood the restaurant, the video shows.
‘In a Mexican restaurant of all places,’ one protester yells. ‘The fu–ing gall.
If Nielsen declined to eat in a Mexican restaurant, she’d be called a racist. And here’s the top nominee for the Captain Louie Renault Award. One of the Democratic Socialists of America activists that harassed Neilsen is one Allison Hrabar, who works–wait for it–at the Department of Justice! I’m shocked, shocked!
It is, of course, no coincidence Democrats and the Media–one in the same–are whipping up faux outrage about this issue when the news had been covering little but the Inspector General’s report and hearings, all of which have portrayed Hillary Clinton, James Comey, and Democrats in general in a very, very bad light merely by revealing more of the truth than has heretofore been known. Media talking heads have, as usual, made utter fools of themselves, as The Spectator reports:
The Children! The Children! The Children!’ [Are the cameras running?] ‘Oh, oh, oh, The Children!’
Has The Resistance™ now well and truly lost its collective mind? Watch Rachel Maddow weep about the Children! the Babies! then tell me (when you finish giggling) what you think.
Here’s what I think: The Resistance™ believes it has — finally, at last, what took them so long? — hit upon an issue they can exploit to show that President Trump really is literally Hitler. That’s why they are airing round-the-clock coverage of The Children! The Babies!, why a Congressional intern (now a former Congressional intern, I hope) screamed “f***- you!” at President Trump when he visited the Capitol yesterday, why hecklers drove out Homeland Security head Kirstjen Nielsen from a restaurant (deliciously, a Mexican restaurant, the irony, the irony) yesterday.
How bad is Trump, how Hitlerian? Read on:
Granted, Donald Trump must be a heartless bastard. After all, he did say ‘We have to send a clear message, just because your child gets across the border doesn’t mean your child gets to stay.’ Oh, wait, sorry, that was actually Hillary Clinton in 2014, not Donald Trump.
But how about those HORRIFYING HEARTRENDING photos of children in CAGES, photos like these. Reminds you of Nazi Germany doesn’t it? (Not really, but still.) Wait, wait, wrong photos. Those photos are from 2014, too. Who was President then? Oh, right. Barack Obama.
Didn’t he have a far more humane, open-minded, open-borderish immigration policy? Did he? Did he? Not really. Here he is explaining why “undocumented” [that’s Dem-speak for “illegal”] workers will be deported because they “broke our immigration laws.”
But Bill Clinton. Surely, he had a more humane immigration policy? Here he is explaining that illegal aliens are breaking the law, putting unacceptable strain on US resources, taking jobs from US citizens, and how his administration will get tough and deport the miscreants.
Barack Obama, Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein (take the link and see this one), and more prominent Democrats are all caught on video talking tough on immigration, and Bill Clinton and Obama did everything that has progressives calling Trump worse than Hitler today. But what’s really going on? Let’s take a moment to review:
When unaccompanied children illegally cross the border, they’re taken into custody, and the government must care for them, obviously until the legal process takes its course. When families illegally cross the border, adults are arrested, but it’s illegal to put children in jail, so the children are indeed separated from their parents and held until their parents are either allowed to remain in the US or deported. In either case, the families are reunited.
But that’s outrageous! Americans don’t tear children from the arms of their loving parents! Just listen to this recording of crying children! We separate families, every day. When adults are arrested for any crime, if accompanied by children, the police either release those children to relatives, or they call social services. They’re responsible for taking care of them. In any case, we don’t put children in jail with their parents. It’s illegal. Strange how Democrats have never complained about this during the Clinton or Obama years, or when children are taken from their parents in towns and cities around the country, but of course, most of those aren’t illegal immigrants. There’s little political posturing or vote-getting to be done there.
What’s happening now is the Media needed some trumped up issue to put the IG expose on the back burner, and the Democrats are desperately searching for some issue to use against Republicans in the upcoming congressional elections. From now until then, any immigrant child anywhere looking slightly sad or crying is going to have a TV camera shoved in their face for later use in Democrat campaign commercials.
Mr. Trump is merely enforcing the law. Democrats want open borders, but can’t openly admit they want open borders, so they deny they want open borders, but “we can’t separate kids from their parents; it’s not who we are!” So Mr. Trump has basically said:“Congress makes laws; I enforce them. Do your damned jobs and change the law if you don’t like it.” Actually, Senator Chuck Schumer slipped and admitted Democrats don’t want a legislative solution. But Mr. Trump, unfortunately, engaged in Obamite, pen and phony behavior, as Fox News reports:
President Trump on Wednesday signed an executive order to allow children to stay with parents caught crossing the border illegally — moving to stop the family separations that have triggered a national outcry and political crisis for Republicans.
The measure would allow children to stay in detention with parents for an extended period of time. This comes as congressional Republicans scramble to draft legislation to address the same issue, but face challenges mustering the votes.
In signing the measure, Trump said he wants to keep families together while also enforcing border security. He vowed his administration’s “zero tolerance” policy for illegal immigration would continue.
Trump, previewing the measure earlier in the day during a meeting with lawmakers, said the move would ‘be matched by legislation.’ He also said he’s canceling the upcoming congressional picnic, adding: ‘It didn’t feel exactly right to me.
How odd. Why would Mr. Trump not feel good about hanging around with congressional Democrats and their lackeys? It’s puzzling.
The executive order he signed directed the Attorney General to ask the California Federal Judge that issued a ruling that illegal alien minors can only be kept for 20 days or less, to change that ruling to allow longer detentions so kids can stay with their parents. One might think all is well, right gentle readers? Not so fast.
The ACLU is threatening an immediate lawsuit because no child should ever be put in jail! Democrats are raising the same stink, which would seem to make no sense. They didn’t want kids separated from their parents, and President Trump is doing his best to fix that. John Belushi said it best: but nooooooooooooooo!
Democrats want open borders, no arrests, no deportations, anyone that wants can waltz across the border to become eternal Democrat voters. All they need to do is haul some children along as a legal shield, and if they sell them into prostitution or impress them in criminal gangs, as is often done, that’s a price Democrats are willing to pay. They’re using children as pawns in a cynical ploy to smear Republicans, and particularly Mr. Trump.
Congress is considering several immigration bills in the next few days, but it’s highly unlikely–as usual–they’ll pass anything. Apart from the usual dangers of refusing to enforce the law and of leaving our southern border open, the social cost of Democrats abandoning even the pretense of comity is incalculable. When congressional aids scream “fuck you” to the President, and congressmen and women crudely harass the President–in the halls of Congress–they are crossing dangerous lines. Those lines crossed, those barriers of common decency and civilized discourse breached, what’s next? Throwing rotten fruit and eggs? Fist fights on the House and Senate floors? Assassination attempts?
Solutions are simple: Congress must not pass laws it does not want enforced. No one can blame the president for enforcing the law, even though Democrats are used to seeing the law as infinitely flexible in the pursuit of their policies. And most of all, if immigrants don’t want to be separated from their children, don’t break the law. Come to America legally. The American public is still very much on the side of President Trump on this issue, if only Republicans don’t lose what little nerve they possess and act like a majority party for a change.
Actually, the easiest solution is to immediately deport illegals, and their children. That way, they wouldn’t be separated. Somehow, though, I don’t think Democrats would go along with that. But maybe it would help if Democrats and media talking heads would volunteer to house these kids? Isn’t that who we are?
Is Mr. Trump, as usual, two steps ahead of Democrats, or did he make a real mistake and listen to congressional Republicans? We’ll know soon.
UPDATE, 06-21-18 1100 CST: It now seems the woman that screamed an obscenity at President Trump in the halls of Congress was not a congressional aide, but an intern, as Fox News reports:
The jeer caught the attention of the U.S. Capitol Police and Secret Service. A call went out on police radios to look for the intern. Officials had a physical description of the intern, but no name.
Capitol security authorities and the Secret Service have grown more anxious lately when it comes to protecting the president at the Capitol. The concern intensified last October after a member of the public finagled his way into a giant press scrum outside the Senate chamber, jeered at the president and hurled Russian flags in his path.
Fox News is told officials would consider the intern a “person of interest” for a couple of reasons. First, they want to see if she’s all right mentally — especially to be working on Capitol Hill with a hard pass which grants access throughout the congressional complex. Second, they need to assess if the intern is really a threat to the president or if her catcall was just political, protected by the First Amendment. If the intern isn’t a threat, authorities would likely leave any disciplinary action up to the office for whom she works.
But there is another issue. The intern is granted a hard pass for the Capitol. It’s not written down anywhere, but some modicum of decorum is expected with that pass.
This is a portion of the point I was making in the original article. Anyone working for the Congress does have an obligation to behave like an adult involved in the legislative process on behalf of the American people. I’m reminded of the Republican Congressman who, during a speech by Barack Obama, yelled: “you lie.” Mr. Obama was indeed lying, but the Republican was, without question, wrong to do that.
In that case, it was up to the people that elected him to decide whether he should be removed from Congress. In this case, we’ll see just how serous Democrats are about their frequent calls for decorum, conversation and dialogue.
This intern has done damage, not only to the public’s opinion of the Congress, but to any hope of cooperation between the parties. I suspect she felt comfortable doing that because she hears that, and worse, from congressional staffers with who she works, but that’s no excuse–simple good manners demand much more–and she should be immediately fired.
Doug said:
While I am profusely anti-Trump (with the “anti” part of that growing each day) there’s a part of me that remains interested in the human side of political views and what makes people believe they way they do.. one side or the other. For example… I don’t subscribe to the idea that those 40% of Trump supporters are somehow lacking in cerebral blood flow but rather those are fellow Americans with a different point of view.. and that they got those views because of certain things they feel are not working for them with the governing of the country. So I keep your blog open, and a couple other blogs reflecting your sympathies, simply to keep a feel of alternate perceptions.
I gotta admit… it’s a real challenge because Trump has such a demonstratively mal-behavioral bully personality to nearly everyone he comes in contact with that when I see his base clapping and clamoring at everything he does, even if it’s wrong and outlandish and/or challenges moral norms of Presidential performance and behavior, it just appalls me into my own human side.
I mention any of this because your TrumpWorld diatribe here, you will be happy to know, has again… brought me to another boiling point. Congrats! :)
Michael W. said:
WOW Doug, you need help. The TRUTH is so against your ‘views’ that NOTHING matters except what you think is correct. Laws? Pisshaw, RACIST ! Etc…..
Welcome to a page that talks about truth, maybe, just maybe the truth will reach you someday and have a good effect upon you.
Doug said:
Well, friend, I’m positive of my truth. If nothing else my side of the coin seems to be the 60% not following your “truth”.
One thing for sure.. and you are blind if you do not see it… it matters not who ends up the Congressional majority after the mid term election… it’s gonna get worse.
Mike McDaniel said:
Dear Doug:
Hi there. Good to hear from you again. I believe I’ve explained several times I voted far less for Mr. Trump than against Mrs. Clinton, but he has pleasantly surprised me. After eight years of Barack Obama, it’s refreshing to have a president that is on America’s side, and seems to genuinely like the American people. It’s equally nice to have a President that actually obeys the law and upholds the Constitution. And of course, it’s amazing to have someone that actually fulfills campaign promises.
Like you, I don’t imagine everyone that might disagree with me to be somehow evil or mentally deficient. I do think, however, progressives tend to allow their emotions to override logic and dedication to the Constitution, and that’s clearly in evidence in the current immigration debate. I say: “No. We can’t do that. The Constitution doesn’t allow it.” Progressives say “The children!” and expect everyone to ignore the law and the Constitution. That such ignorance would be to their political benefit is, I suppose, a coincidence?
I have also come to know that when any politician of any party starts crying about “the children,” it’s virtually always because they’re trying to sell us something that logic and the law can’t support. In this case, Mr. Trump is, in fact, obeying the law, and as I pointed out, when adults are lawfully arrested, their children are not jailed, but the police are obligated–by law–to properly care for them. Sadly, for children from other countries with no relatives in America, that means they’re going to have to be guests of the government. When tens, even hundreds of thousands of foreigners choose to violate our immigration laws, and bring along their children, or send their children unaccompanied by adults, the government must care for them. The law, and human decency require it.
The problem is Democrats want open borders, or such lax immigration policies as to amount to the same thing. Perhaps some have legitimately humanitarian concerns, but we both know most just want as many people beholden to Democrats. Democrats are having trouble convincing enough Americans of their policies, so they’re trying to import people more likely to vote for them. The other part of the problem is most congressional Democrats seem so deranged by Mr. Trump, they’ll oppose anything he supports regardless of the law, the Constitution, or any positive benefit it might provide.
Sorry Doug, no “Trumpworld” here. In any case, glad to have you, as always.
Doug said:
No, Mike.. this latest immigration fiasco was initiated by Trump’s zero tolerance nonsense, could have easily be decreed away by him by a phone call, he did not, and told many lies that it was all the Dems fault.. then ends up dereeing a stop to it all after all. This was nothing about following some “letter of the law” nonsense on his end. He was trying some “kids-for-a-wall” Congressional action. This whole thing wreaks and makes me embarrassed at being an American. Yet, this is what his base loves… bully the elites and the swampers, and they can put up with all his other behaviroral issues. A true deal with the devil.
In any event, this immigration process has not been planned out.. just decreeing a stop to it all says nothing about the logistics involved in re-locating parents with their kids… no concept at all how this plays out at the immigration court level… and as I write this the White House has given notice to the Pentagon to prepare military installations to accept up to 20k children.
This country is just into one uncontrollable nosedive until this guy is outta the office.
Mike McDaniel said:
Dear Doug:
So it’s not illegal to enter the country without permission? When parents are arrested. the authorities are not required to take custody of their children and care for them? A federal judge did not rule that such children can be kept no longer than 20 days? Democrats don’t want open borders, or at the very least, very lax immigration enforcement?
I’ve no doubt Mr. Trump hoped a “zero tolerance” policy–actually enforcing the law without exceptions–might encourage people considering entering the country illegally not to come, or at the least, not to send their children alone, or not to bring them along, but even if that was his only consideration, that was entirely within his constitutional powers, and was, in fact, furthering enforcement of the law. One may disagree with the approach, but it was entirely lawful.
Or am I wrong about Congress having sole power to change such laws, but refusing to do so for political reasons?
fred4d said:
It is fairly obvious that the Dems and never-Trumps are suffering from mass hysteria. They came to believe their own lies about Trump and are scared to death. Sure Trump has some bad points and is far from perfect, but he is so far from the person the Dems and never-Trumps believe him to be it is tragic. For a fictional account of this phenomenon see the Haunted Woods chapter from Anne of Green Gables. Anne and Diana make up stories about a peaceful wood lot that lies between their two houses, By the time they are done both are afraid to go through the woods at night least their very own creations of imagination attack them.
Bucky Barkingham said:
It’s obvious that the Left thinks it has found the right issue, “the children”, since Russia and Stormy have both been pushed out of the daily news cycle. Even Stormy’s mouthpiece has abandoned her and is rushing to the southern border to jump on the bandwagon.
Tom said:
The Left has set up a catch-22 that cannot be resolved. They object to children being separated from their parents, but they object to the kids being in detention with their parents.
SJWs cannot be appeased. If you give them 100% of what they demand, they will move the goal post and demand something else.
Fun fact: the POTUS is chief of the executive branch of the government. The executive enforces the laws, but does not make them. The legislative branch (i.e., Congress) makes the laws.
A UK reporter asked Sarah Sanders why Trump “doesn’t just have Congress pass a law” to fix the problem. Duh. The Congress is a co-equal branch of the government. The president has no legal authority to “have” them do anything.
And the Democrats don’t want to pass any immigration reform bills. They want to leave the law as is. They want unrestricted immigration and open borders, but they can’t openly advocate such things. So they want another Obama as president. Someone who will ignore, or selectively enforce, the law.
It is not just the Democrats, though. Laura Bush’s op-ed in the Washington Post was hypocritical, since it was her husband who signed the 2008 law that contributed to the current problem.
The Democrats want wetbacks for their votes. (Which is why they also object to reasonable laws that would require voters at the polls to show the same I.D. cards that they would need to buy a can of beer.) And both the limousine liberal Democrats and the country club conservative Republicans want cheap labor.
BTW, Kate Steinle, Josh Wilkerson, and Jamiel Shaw were separated from their parents, too.
Mike McDaniel said:
Dear Tom:
Quite so. I’m often amazed by Democrat–which of course includes the media–demanding something be done without regard to the law of the Constitution. They’re used to transitory emotion and Democrat political goals ruling over all. Some republicans do the same, of course, but it’s nice to have adults in charge of the Executive branch for a change, even though Mr. Trump occasionally says things that make me cringe a bit. I’ll take that in exchange for his support of the Constitution.
Doug said:
I keep having trouble posting in here (likely to the pleasure of the others).
Mike.. the issue is not so much whether or not Trump’s “zero tolerance” child separation was legal or not. Trumpsters like to bang away that we are a nation of laws (regarding immigration), and just as equally we are also a nation of compassion for human existence and human rights. A couple things hit me up front here… in typical fashion conservatives are choosing to address the symptoms.. that being, people are rushing the gates and we gotta fortify the gates. What’s bringing those folks to our gates? Generally it’s a cyclical demographic result over the years of current political instability in Central and South America, shifting economic influence in those areas, and crappy governments where the local populace is trapped in poverty and fear of persecution. They are coming here because of America’s reputation (and not the one you think… “it’s easy to get in”; it’s not).
There is also a criminal element looking to profit from Americans who are unable to avoid drugs… there’s sex trafficing… gang activity… et al.
They are coming here because this is where the money and the market is.
Oh wait… there are businesses here who pay cash… cheap cash… to illegal workers. This is the segment that conservatives feel threatened are taking all those jobs away from (white) Americans… those grunt jobs no American wants to do.
So given all that… all Trump and his cohorts want to do is fortify the gates.. more soldiers, more guards, a better wall, detention camps, holding pens, enforce laws without compassion but with zero tolerance… and hope the word spreads into the deep, dark jungles of Central and South America that there’s no sense you wanting to flee for your life and your children’s lives to America because they will arrest you, and/or detain you until you complete an over-burdened application process lasting months… but most importantly, it’s the law.
Seems to me we need far more attention into solving the motivational issues making them want to come here in the first place. The State Department has been gutted and raped by Trump, so they are ineffective in working inside diplomatic solutions for trying to aid struggling nations in our hemisphere. There appears absolutely NO interest in enforcing stricter laws regarding businesses who continue to hire illegals. And because no one in Washington wants to engage in a national mental health discussion people will continue to engage in the passions of drug use.
So now Trump has dug himself into this immigration hole as a result of trying to work another agenda… and this is going to get far worse before all this gets better.
Jeffrey said:
Doug, you’re partly right. We should make it less desirable to enter our country illegally, and making it difficult for unscrupulous employers to employ people who are here illegally is a good place to start. We should also immediately remove people who are here illegally, along with their children, and not allow them to profit from illegal behavior. A lax approach only encourages illegal entry.
That said, the United States cannot be expected to address the problems the problems of the countries those people are leaving. Where does that end? Why is the United States responsible for the failure of people in other countries to govern themselves?
We have processes for people to come to the United States legally. I’ve seen it work.
This whole debate is just noise, it’s designed to subvert the law.
Doug said:
Actually, Jeffery, a part of the problem is that conservatives prefer to dismiss the entire immigration issue in the media and elsewhere as noise, just as you said. Dismissive.. and like you ignore Trump for the person he is and his performance because his agenda is so great to white America, so you are ignoring the problems yet to show up because of his actions/inactions.
Mike McDaniel said:
Dear Doug:
Noise? Dismissing the issue? Quite the contrary. Illegal immigration is one of the most serious issue facing this country, and no conservative I’ve read or know thinks otherwise. They fully support legal immigration based on the principle that America has the right and duty to admit only immigrants that will not drain our resources, will fully assimilate, and will be a net benefit to America. In this, they are like the citizens of virtually every other rational nation on Earth.
Nor does anyone ignore Mr. Trump’s obvious quirks. However, as with all human beings, we must judge them not on their perfection, but on their entire personality and actions. Mr. Trump is doing much good for America, and while I and others wish he would be a less bombastic personality, we gladly accept that as a reasonable trade off for competence and accomplishment.
“White America” Doug. I know you haven’t been reading for too long, but all race cards were canceled at this Internet ATM long, long ago. But since you’ve brought it up, in the short time Mr. Trump has been in office, he has done far, far more for Black Americans–to name only a single minority group–than any president before him, including Barack Obama. Democrats know this well. They can see the electoral trends as Blacks warm to Mr. Trump, which is only one reason they want to import an entirely new minority group of voters through illegal immigration.
I prefer to refer to us all as Americans, eschewing mention of race, which is, for the most part, irrelevant, but you did raise it…
Doug said:
Your last line is right on, Mike. Now.. you think Trump has been working for all Americans or just his base? He feeds the great divide between Americans with his unrestrained verbal and tweeting rhetoric.. and mostly his awful lies to all Americans. When he goes before his base rallies it’s all about the “enemies” he perceives are running around in some form. Nothing about hope, optimism, engaging traditional American values… he’s no cheerleader for the American public at all.
I agree, Mike. The only reason I am even commenting in your blog at all is because somewhere in all this nonsense we have something common as Americans.
Mike McDaniel said:
Dear Doug:
Any president that upholds the Constitution and honors his oath of office to faithfully uphold the law is working for all Americans. We don’t have to agree with everything he says and does.
Mike McDaniel said:
Dear Doug:
Regarding posting, I’m not sure what’s going on. I found a copy of one of your comments that posted normally caught in my spam filter. I’ve no idea how that happened. It’s an issue that crops up from time to time, having nothing to do with you.
Doug said:
I at no time thought the quirks were intentional, Mike. I have my own similar issues over the three blogs I have as well. Just get’s frustrating.. and I am often told by my own visitors when they run up against my quirk blogs.
rd said:
Doug,
Mexico is about to elect a full blown socialist next month. I am sure that will work out well, just like Chavismo Venezuela. Next year you too will be screaming for a wall as half of Mexico decides to march north and GTFO of the Socialist Paradise(TM).
Doug said:
Maybe socialism will work better for them. We (U.S. foreign policy) constantly assumes democratic reforms are good for every country.. when, in fact, Third World countries are unable to handle democracy all that well.
rd said:
One problem, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, or “AMLO”, is going to be the next President of Mexico.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/22/mexican-candidate-immigration-speech/
And soon, very soon — after the victory of our movement — we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.”
Doug said:
I’ve been suggesting this for years now… make Mexico a state and solve all the problems at once.
Mike McDaniel said:
Dear Doug:
No thanks. One California is quite enough.
Doug said:
Now on that we can certainly agree!
Jeffrey said:
Doug – (no reply link under your reply, so I’ll post here) I can’t speak for Conservatives as a group. In my case, I do dismiss the debate as noise. See Mike’s examples of politicians taking both sides of the issue when it’s politically convenient.
The Constitution defines our country. If people want to be a part of our country, we need to make sure they are in agreement with that definition. We have a process for that, and it usually works. I’ve seen it first hand, with immigrants from Nigeria, China, and India coming to the United States and completing the requirements to become citizens. They are good people who share the values of our constitution. Their skin hue matches the typical skin hues of their home countries, too, although that’s not relevant. You brought up white America, not me. Are you some kind of racist?
Doug said:
Nice try.. no, no racist here. But my point is that the guy in charge of the White House reflects a measure of racism in his bull-in-a-china-shop performance… and he’s a magnet for white folks who want to return to some good-old-days of white privilege. See, here’s the Trumpian blunder… I have absolutely NO objection to securing our borders as part of a larger process for immigration control. In fact, we likely didn’t/don’t need any new legislation; we just needed to enforce the laws already on the books a bit better, and “fix” whatever processes & procedures are required to apply those laws effectively and humanely.
This last round of the “children roundup” was totally Trump’s doing from the get-go… and he’s used this entire affair to try some move to get Congress to give him his damn wall. He lies all the time, on every subject. Says he can’t stop the children roundup because of some lie about it being a “law”… has his minions slam the media with the same nonsense lie… then all of a sudden decrees a stop. Sadly, there’s no mechanism in place to unite all the children with their parents.. and this is going to get worse… all because Trump is a buffoon.
Sorry.. you, his base, made the deal with the devil.. I didn’t. You, and the rest of his base have bought into this idea that “we can put up with his little idiosyncrasies because he’s doing great fulfilling his promised agenda” nonsense. I don’t believe that the end justifies the means. I don’t care if Trump parts the seas, cures all diseases, and secures our solar system from the ravages of the Galactic Empire with his new Space Force. He’s a bully and he’s managed to isolate America from our allies and embraced our enemies. But his base loves him.
Jeffrey said:
Hi Doug- I suspect some racists like Trump; that doesn’t mean Trump and all of his supporters are racist. And you’re right, (wow, twice?) we likely don’t need new legislation for border security.
What you term his “children roundup” seems a little off-the-mark, and maybe designed to be a little inflammatory. The policy of separating children from their families predates the Trump administration. The only people rounding up children are those who bring children across the border illegally. Do illegal border crossers bear no responsibility for what happens to children they bring with them?
I can understand how blind loyalty to President Trump can be off-putting. It is to me, anyway. I voted against Hillary Clinton. One of those two was going to be elected, and I chose Trump because I believed (and still believe) he was the better of the two. I’ve been surprised at how well he has defended the constitution.
MARTIN FISCHER said:
” I don’t care if Trump parts the seas, cures all diseases, and secures our solar system from the ravages of the Galactic Empire with his new Space Force. He’s a bully ”
Therein are the classic symptoms of TDS.
Better a politician whispering in your ear how good it will be while he’s raping you, than a bull in a china shop who actually accomplishes some good.
Great insight, Doug.
Doug said:
Martin, I think what you have just expressed illustrates a large segment (not a majority though) who is just generally pissed at politicians to the point that anyone coming into the picture that upsets traditional apple carts, like Trump, are a welcome situation. I am sure you are lavishing in some form of delight in seeing all this divide; Trump’s “good” for you is that he’s just mixing things up topsy-turvey, and the awful mainstream media (and I do not include the state propaganda machine, FoxNews) and progressives running around in manic disarray, is somehow satisfying to you. It’s simply your tone.
But regardless… there are many Americans with similar opinions as you have and those opinions are no more or less valid as mine. At least you are being more civil than many I have encountered. But, truly… we gotta get over this antagonistic rhetoric.
To be quite honest… Trump himself is in the way of us getting over this divide.
Char Char Binks said:
People don’t migrate TO oppressive regimes. Facts.
Mike McDaniel said:
Dear Char Char Binks:
People do indeed vote with their feet. We’re seeing it in America when people flee California and New York for Florida, Arizona and Texas.
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